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PT In original ROTS draft, Padme tried to stab Anakin in neck with knife on Mustafar!?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Ghost, May 12, 2017.

  1. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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  2. Seagoat

    Seagoat Former Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Saw this on Reddit the other day. Apparently so

    Personally glad they didn't go through with that idea. Aside from the fact that Obi-Wan confronting Padme and telling her about it is one of my favourite scenes, I think even this would be a little too.... well, much
     
  3. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Interesting - thanks for sharing, Ghost.

    That being said, I am very glad they did not opt for this alleged ending, it's totally out of character for Padme - and I think it's rather crappy of Yahoo to claim that it would have been "much better."

    Aside from some who have issues with her dying due to "losing the will to live," I really don't see many problems with the way the film ended. I thought it was great.
     
  4. Dandelo

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    edit: nevermind
     
  5. Darth__Lobot

    Darth__Lobot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Thanks for posting - that's just wild!

    "Anakin your breaking my heart... .and oh, can you turn around there's something on your back, let me see if I can get it"
     
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  6. Darth Mikey

    Darth Mikey Jedi Master star 3

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    Luke : " Do you remember your mother? Your real mother? "
    Leia : " Just...images, really. Feelings. "
    Luke : " Tell me. "
    Leia : " She was beautiful.Kind. But ... sad. And good with a knife."
     
  7. Seagoat

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    Much as I'd have loved to have the Rebellion founding scenes included (I don't care about length, give me a 3, 4, 50 hour SW movie) I think Padme's role worked quite well, yes

    There's a certain edge to the whole "about to stab him but can't bring herself to do it" that I do kinda like, but eh. Even most of r/starwars seems satisfied they didn't go for this
     
  8. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    As much as I disliked the sobbing and "you're breaking my heart" and losing the will to live, that would have been too far on the other extreme. I'm glad the writers did not go with it.
     
  9. Dandelo

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    would have been cool if it was like a little pocket lightsaber knife or something...

    if they went that route obviously :p
     
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    typical of prequel bashing yahoo articles they claim that was the 'original better ending'
     
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  11. {Quantum/MIDI}

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    Here is the link detailing Padme at 28:00
     
  12. ObiWanKnowsMe

    ObiWanKnowsMe Jedi Master star 4

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    Yikes. The artwork picture is really chilling.
     
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  13. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I should have read a bit more closely - it was Esquire UK that originated the crappy title of that article, Yahoo just reproduced it.
     
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  14. Ghost

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    Well according to the article (and video), she runs up to him, puts her arms around his neck... then her knife comes out, on his neck, and she can't do it. Then he goes insane and kills her and Obi-wan shows up.
    (I think even the finished draft also had an element of Anakin suspecting an Obi-wan/Padme romance too)

    And as for it being "out of character"... it only became her character because that's how they wrote her in ROTS. In TPM, we see how place her role as Queen above her liking to Anakin, saying "the Queen would not approve" of Qui-gon's plan and bets. In AOTC, Obi-wan and Anakin talk about how Padme would do her duty and let Anakin die, if Anakin and Padme's roles were reversed (when she falls out). Her evolution to that wouldn't be more of a jump than Anakin's fall in the same movie. And apparently she still couldn't do it, but she tried, she brought it to the point of her knife at his neck.
     
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  15. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I was taking 99% of ROTS into context when I said it would be out of character. Unless they had other alterations to the plot that were not mentioned - perhaps Obi-Wan actually showing her the footage of the younglings being slain - it would be very odd for the Padme we see throughout ROTS to react to Obi-Wan's words so drastically that she would try to murder the father of her children.
     
  16. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    I remember reading about this when I was 10. Really disturbing to me. Padme was always an interesting character, even taking ROTS out of context, I'm not so sure I could see TPM or AOTC Padme doing the same thing. Just seems a bit too dark, even for Sith imo.
     
  17. ObiWanKnowsMe

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    I agree Deliveranze
    Just the picture gives me the creeps. Especially the look on Padme's face
     
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  18. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    Yeah it just looks stone cold. I think its trying to give Vader an anti-hero edge for his actions. Like he tried to kill her in self-defense which keeps Vader's reputation in the OT as "honorable badass" intact. Obviously, Lucas's vision was to show how uncool turning to the dark side is and how selfish and evil Anakin has become. So it doesn't mesh at all well with the theme of the movie.
     
  19. Darth__Lobot

    Darth__Lobot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I kind of feel like Padme would be more of a blaster person than a knife person......
     
  20. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    Why didn't she try a lightsaber?
     
  21. {Quantum/MIDI}

    {Quantum/MIDI} Force Ghost star 5

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    It's not even about being dark. Children were murdered by our main character(and one died on-screen) a man chokes his own wife, then becomes burned alive. That in itself, for a children's movie, is incredibly depressing.

    It's just completely out of character for her to even try and attempt at killing her husband. Plus, it would actually make her character genuinely stupid. She's a very eloquent and smart women, so she wouldn't just take someone's word as truth unless she saw it for herself(and she did).

    Edit: Sorry heels. Meant to respond to Del.

    Deliveranze
     
  22. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    Ghost You read my mind. I was actually gonna make a thread on this or at least mention it. :p Kudos. This is an interesting topic.

    @{Quantum/MIDI} Good point. I think what I meant by "too dark" is more to what you stated. The child killing is done by someone, who at that point, we aren't suppose to sympathize with, but since Obi-Wan and Padme are both our main protagonists at that point, having her try to murder him comes off as weak. Like, her character is built upon optimism and strong dedication to what she believes in and her trying to kill the man who she cares for is, like you said, "stupid" and absurdly too much.
     
  23. B99

    B99 Force Ghost star 6

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    Wow! I did not know this..

    It is!!





    She should of used sand instead.. Would of been more effective.. :p
     
  24. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    Why couldn't she side with Anakin to overthrow Palpatine together like Anakin has been planned?
     
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  25. Ghost

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    Yeah, that's probably the main reason why, and I support the change for this reason.


    Though I just had some fun imagining this in an alternate ROTS:
    -more focus on Padme actively gathering allies for the Rebellion (she was passive even in those deleted scenes)
    -maybe she's with Bail when he goes to check on the Jedi Temple (maybe she's even the one bringing him along)... and that's when she discovers the truth
    -she listens to Anakin tell her he's going to Mustafar... but this time they're both lying to each other
    -maybe there's an actual battle on Mustafar this time, so it takes a little while
    -Padme goes and asks C-3PO to bring her "madeupnameon" and he asks why since it can cause her to miscarriage, and she just says do it
    -Padme is with Bail to pick-up Yoda from the Senate (maybe Obi-wan went with Yoda to double-team Sidious)... and they immediately go to Dagobah
    -cut back to Mustafar, Padme appears after battle ends, the knife scene happens, she backs down, Anakin yells why
    -Padme says the Anakin she knows is dead, and she's already started a Rebellion to take-down the Empire... Anakin yells "traitor!" at her, says he did it all for her to save her in childbirth... Padme "reveals" she took "madeupnameon" and miscarried. Padme: "your son never lived... you will never be a father."
    -that's when Anakin freaks, kills Padme, Obi-wan appears
    -Obi-wan returns to Dagobah... Bail Organa is leaving, with the droids, and a mysterious package (aka Leia's cradle) he's carrying, says he will continue Padme's rebellion with the others, and he says goodbye to Obi-wan and thanks him for his service, and Obi-wan says he'll be on Tatooine if the rebellion is ever in dire need
    -Yoda then reveals Luke (revealing to audience that Padme lied to Anakin to protect her child/ren), and asks Obi-wan to take him to Tatooine (and it also preserves the Leia surprise)
     
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