Amph INCEPTION- Christopher Nolan's new film (SPOILERS)

Discussion in 'Community' started by Coruscant, Jul 14, 2010.

  1. Kiki-Gonn Chosen One

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    My (related) hang up is on a seemingly minor scene. British dude chides 3rd Rock from the Sun kid that he shouldn't be afraid to imagine bigger (or somesuch), pulling out a grenade launcher to one up 3rd Rock's machine gun.

    I'm probably missing something obvious, but doesn't that change everything? You're in someone else's dream but can whip up anything you want (unlike the involuntary train). Why not a bank truck so those pesky bullets wouldn't turn your van into swiss cheese, or a helicopter, etc. etc. etc.
    There's no shortage of scenes where the characters wouldn't have imagined up whatever they needed if they had that ability, changing the entire dynamic of being in the dream world.

    Did anyone else have a problem with that?
  2. soitscometothis Force Ghost

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    It wasn't "imagine bigger", it was "dream bigger", which is a common phrase/slogan; basically, he's making a play on words (think bad Bond puns/ innuendo). I never thought he just whipped the gun up, he just chose it from the arsenal that was already there.

    But that was just my interpretation.

    Edit:typo
  3. Import_Jedi Force Ghost

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    The Inception trailer using footage from Pixar's UP. Nicely done... It looks like the characters in Up are actually saying the lines in the trailer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY69-AgUmDQ

    EDIT: Here's the Toy Story 3 version:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHJwgA54Gqk&NR=1
  4. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    Ugh, that would just make everything worse. Explain every plot hole and inconsistency and basically address every complaint with "HE WAS DREAMING THE ENTIRE TIME YOU GUYS!" Brilliant.

    I haven't read the link yet. I will later.
  5. rechedelphar Force Ghost

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    A couple things make me think it was all a dream(I wouldn't like that but you know). 1. The chase in Mombassa seemed pretty dreamlike. People were running into cars and then still going. The two walls that Cobb got wedged between was a little weird. 2. The ending with his kids. The kids turning too him was too dreamy. The kids were in the exact same position as they were in his dream. He was standing in the same place as well. Just this time they turned their faces to him. The kids may have even been wearing the same exact clothes.
  6. Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One

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    Is this now a meme? Because I saw the same thing done with Gran Torino. :p
  7. Spider-Fan Force Ghost

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    I saw it done with Bill and Ted's Excellent Inception.
  8. Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One

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    I should clarify: I meant using the Up trailer video and then using the audio from another movie.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TuRbk-00Sw
  9. Spider-Fan Force Ghost

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    Ah well trailer mash-ups are nothing new. In fact they are a little too common for my tastes, and too often they're really, really poorly done.
  10. Kiki-Gonn Chosen One

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    Well at least you'll be approaching it with an open mind.
  11. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    I mentioned this earlier, but why would Cobb's subconscious be telling him to wake up?

    ...Also a classic way for an action movie to create suspense.

    ...and mindless action movie logic.

    I guess that makes sense.

    ...movie ...action ... (correctly) expecting the audience to largely accept it ...

    Really? How... boring. If the film is really just an allegory, it makes all the twists and turns and setup amount to nothing. If all that mattered was Cobb-- "the director"-- why bother building that (rather) complicated, hole-filled world? Ugh, another bad taste. It also seems like it'd be rather insulting to the rest of the creative team on a film. :p

    What was that movie with Eddie Murphy and Steve Martin and Heather Graham? Now there was a good film about filmmaking, and it didn't even bother with a messed-up allegory!


    And oh god, the comments are filled with a bunch of Freudian crap. Stab me in the eyes, please.

    EDIT: Bowfinger!
  12. Kiki-Gonn Chosen One

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  13. Mustafar_66 Force Ghost

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    Absolutely loved it. Made all the better by my incredibly low expectations when I went to see it. I find Nolan remarkably hit and miss and this was most definitely a hit. I can't think of any flaw whatsoever.
  14. EmpireForever Chosen One

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    In response to the linked article, how does the entire movie being a dream make sense for the movie making allegory, if the real world is the dream(movie)? If Cobb is the "director", then his "movie" would surely be the three layer dream, and not any of what was happening in "reality", since that is where he assembled his "film crew". It's an interesting allegory, but it certainly doesn't mean that what is supposed to be reality is not reality, and it definitely does not in any way concretely support that the entire thing was a dream--to me it would seem to say the exact opposite. The "project" they're working on is Fletcher's dream, not prior to that.

    I think people are starting to confuse "action movie logic" with "dream logic" just to support their theory. People are hit all the time with cars in action movies.
  15. Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One

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    [image=http://a.imageshack.us/img594/4163/inceptionp1.jpg]
  16. Mar17swgirl Chosen One

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    I've just seen this film and I really liked it. :) The nerd in me especially enjoyed the messing around with Physics in dreams (Escheresque staircases FTW! :D). Although I did guess the end twist about halfway into the film... :p
  17. duende Force Ghost

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  18. Lord Vivec Chosen One

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    Even moar graphics! to confuse or enlighten

    [image=http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/204/1/a/Inception_Infographic_by_dehahs.jpg]
  19. Mar17swgirl Chosen One

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    It's even drawn in an Escheresque style! [face_love] *has nerdgasm*
  20. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    I don't get what's with all the graphics explaining the "layers." That, in fact, was very easy to follow-- the movie pretty much went out of its way to help the audience keep them straight.


    The last one just makes it seem a lot more confusing than it actually is.
  21. Lord Vivec Chosen One

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    It was very easy to follow.

    But many people I know got confused.
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    Why do you associate with such simpletons, then?
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    You associate here as well, Jello.

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  24. Lord Vivec Chosen One

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    I'm kinda stuck hanging out with engineers.
  25. Import_Jedi Force Ghost

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    Don't know if this one was brought up before, but did anyone else notice that the blonde girl who hit on Cillian Murphy in that hotel bar (at the start of Dream #2) looked like the creature from Splice? If you watch Inception again notice the girl's eyes...

    They looked scary :p

    [image=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/punkboi/main_splice02.jpg]