Indy 4 and the Oscars

Discussion in 'Lucasfilm Ltd. In-Depth Discussion' started by Captain_Typho, Mar 3, 2008.

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  1. Captain_Typho Force Ghost

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    I am pleased to report that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull has been nominated for a screen actors guild award for outstanding performance by a stunt ensemble in a motion picture. And the nominees are:

    THE DARK KNIGHT (Warner Bros. Pictures)
    HELLBOY II: THE GOLDEN ARMY (Universal Pictures)
    INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL (Paramount Pictures)
    IRON MAN (Paramount Pictures)
    WANTED (Universal Pictures)
  2. HanSolo29 Manager Emeritus + Official Star Wars Artist

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    Glad to hear!

    As for the debate of the CGI gophers/monkeys ruining the film's chances of earning a special effects nom, I think that's being a little nitpicky. Those two scenes are just a small sampling out of the dozens of shots that exhibited outstanding and realistic effects. I still think it stands a good chance.
  3. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Grand Master

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    Sorry, but a film's opening shot is significant enough to push things into the make-or-break region. Even if it wasn't, it's not like the rest of the effects were all that stellar anyway.
  4. Gobi-1 Manager Emeritus

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    Comparing ILM's work on Indy 4 and Iron Man I would give the nod to Iron Man and this is coming from someone who loves Indy 4. Indy's effects were great but some did stick out. Although I have no problem with the gophers.
  5. HanSolo29 Manager Emeritus + Official Star Wars Artist

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    That's what I don't understand. I could see your point if we were focusing on the tarzan shots with the monkeys, but the gophers didn't bother me too much. They looked real to me. The only thing that stuck out about them were their human-like actions. But even then, that wasn't too bad.

    As for Iron Man taking the prize, I can definitely see that. It had a lot of great things going for it.
  6. Gobi-1 Manager Emeritus

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    Indy has been knocked out of the running for the visual effects Oscar.

    http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51723

    7 in Running for 2008 Visual Effects Oscar
    Source: The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences
    January 6, 2009

    The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences today announced that seven films remain in the running in the Visual Effects category for the 81st Academy Awards®.

    The films are listed below in alphabetical order:

    Australia

    The Curious Case of Benjamin Button

    The Dark Knight

    Hellboy II: The Golden Army

    Iron Man

    Journey to the Center of the Earth

    The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor

    On Thursday, January 15, all members of the Academy's Visual Effects Branch will be invited to view 15-minute excerpts from each of the seven shortlisted films. Following the screenings, the members will vote to nominate three films for final Oscar consideration.

    The 81st Academy Awards nominations will be announced on Thursday, January 22, 2009, at 5:30 a.m. PT in the Academy's Samuel Goldwyn Theater.

    Academy Awards for outstanding film achievements of 2008 will be presented on Sunday, February 22, 2009, at the Kodak Theatre at Hollywood & Highland Center®, and televised live by the ABC Television Network. The Oscar presentation also will be televised live in more than 200 countries worldwide.


    As I already mentioned I'll take ILM's work on Iron Man over Indy 4. When they narrow it down to three I hope Iron Man is ILM only entry. When they get two nods it could split the vote as it did when The Golden Compass won over the superior Transformers and Pirates 3. My prediction for the final three:

    The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
    The Dark Knight
    Iron Man

    A dark horse nominee might be Journey To The Center of the Earth. Although not photo realistic I thought it was very imaginative and looked great in 3-D.
  7. Captain_Typho Force Ghost

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    Although Indy 4 has been knocked out of the visual effects race, it remains a strong contestant in the best art direction race, and as I have said many times, if the film deserves one sole nomination, it is in this category. And on that note, I am very pleased to announce that the Art Director's Guild has nominated Indiana Jones 4 for best production design in the fantasy film category....although it is kind of hard to decide whether it should have been considered as a fantasy film or period film. This art guild nomination really helps supports the film's run in this category for the oscar. And the nominees are:

    Fantasy Films

    THE DARK KNIGHT
    Production Designer: Nathan Crowley
    INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL
    Production Designer: Guy Hendrix Dyas
    IRON MAN
    Production Designer: J. Michael Riva
    THE SPIDERWICK CHRONICLES
    Production Designer: James Bissell
    WALL E
    Production Designer: Ralph Eggleston

    Period Films

    CHANGELING
    Production Designer: James J. Murakami
    THE CURIOUS CASE OF BENJAMIN BUTTON
    Production Designer: Donald Graham Burt
    DOUBT
    Production Designer: David Gropman
    FROST/NIXON
    Production Designer: Michael Corenblith
    MILK
    Production Designer: Bill Groom

    Contemporary Films

    BURN AFTER READING
    Production Designer: Jess Gonchor
    GRAN TORINO
    Production Designer: James J. Murakami
    QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    Production Designer: Dennis Gassner
    SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE
    Production Designer: Mark Digby
    THE WRESTLER
    Production Designer: Timothy Grimes
  8. Captain_Typho Force Ghost

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    Indy 4 has been nominated for a razzie award for worst prequel, sequel, or remake. [face_plain]
  9. Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus

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    Not surprised. I enjoyed the movie and all, but compared to the previous entries in the Indy series it was a bit sub-par.
  10. timmoishere Force Ghost

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    It was better than Temple of Doom, at least.
  11. HanSolo29 Manager Emeritus + Official Star Wars Artist

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    Yea, really. I don't understand what went behind that decision. There were definitely worst films that came out this year that could easily fit into that category.
  12. NZPoe Jedi Master

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    No but listing it in the razzies will bolster the awards publicity for certain!
  13. NZPoe Jedi Master

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    Meh, I'll take "Temple of Doom" any day over "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Family Reunion Variety CGI Stunt Hour (featuring the famous Threatless Soviet Army and the I-Can-Do-Anything-That-Indy-Can-Do-Except-I-Don't-Get-Hurt-EVER-Talents of Mutt Williams)!"

  14. Palpateen Jedi Master

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    I think compared to most film makers around the world, Lucas and Spielberg have done quite well for themselves.
  15. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Grand Master

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    Although perhaps their definition of "worst" also factors in the degree of quality-dropping.

    For example, Saw V may be a far worse film than KotCS, but compared to Saw IV it basically managed to maintain the same level of (non)quality.

    On the other hand, KotCS represents a significant drop-off in quality when compared to Last Crusade.

    Remember that the award isn't for "Worst Film (that is a sequel/prequel/remake)"; it's for "Worst Sequel/Prequel/Remake", so the degree to which it fails in its capacity as a follow-up to a previous film should weigh as heavily as the nominated films' relative badness, IMO.
  16. JohnWesleyDowney Force Ghost

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    Famous Jewish Proverb:

    We do not see things as they are. We see things as WE are.

    It's all in the perspective,
    which is always subjective.
  17. Captain_Typho Force Ghost

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    In other news, kudos to John Williams who keeps racking up nominations for the Indy 4 score. 3 nominations by the IFMCA including best score of the year.....bodes well for oscar chances...


    FILM SCORE OF THE YEAR

    The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, music by Alexandre Desplat
    The Dark Knight, music by James Newton Howard and Hans Zimmer
    Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, music by John Williams
    Standard Operating Procedure, music by Danny Elfman
    Wall*E, music by Thomas Newman

    BEST ORIGINAL SCORE FOR AN ACTION/ADVENTURE FILM

    The Dark Knight, music by James Newton Howard and Hans Zimmer
    Hancock, music by John Powell
    Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, music by John Williams
    Speed Racer, music by Michael Giacchino
    Wanted, music by Danny Elfman

    BEST COMPILATION ALBUM OR BOX SET

    Gangs of New York/The Journey of Natty Gann/The Scarlet Letter, music by Elmer Bernstein; produced by Robert Townson (Varèse Sarabande)
    Indiana Jones: The Soundtracks Collection, music by John Williams; produced by Laurent Bouzereau (Concord)
    Le Cinéma de Georges Delerue, music by Georges Delerue; produced by Stéphane Lerouge (Universal Music France)
    MGM Soundtrack Treasury, various composers; produced by Lukas Kendall (Film Score Monthly)
    Superman: The Music, various composers; produced by Mike Matessino and Lukas Kendall (Film Score Monthly)
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