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thank god

I have. I don't have the newer version though. But I don't think that matters on PC.

 

Doooooo itttttt.

 

Do It!!!

 

Never forget.

 

RIP Mr Nimoy. Starfleet won't be the same without you.

 

What... the... kriff... did I just watch...

 

May your memory live long and prosper for generations to come.

I'm so watching the Wrath of Kahn tonight. The final scene with the torpedo casket and Scotty on the bag pipes will probably bring a tear to my eye...

--Adm. Nick

 

RIP Mr. Spock, he certainly did live long and prospered. He will be missed.

It would have been interesting to possibly see him and Shatner on screen again for the next movie, if they ever were going to get things worked out.

 

I just saw the news on another site. Sad, and not the sort of thing I wanted to wake up to.

...And I'm gonna be honest, neither was "The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins".

 

I just watched TWoK again a few weeks ago. Fantastic movie and about as good a send-off as any character in recurring media has ever gotten. Very fitting for today.

 

Sad to see this news. RIP, Leonard Nimoy.

 

It was a bit of a shock to hear about it a few minutes ago in this thread - I promptly went to the BBC site to look it up.

 

As final words go - or rather, a Tweet, Leonard Nimoy's was quite something:

https://twitter.com/TheRealNimoy/status/569762773204217857

 

Wait...there are people who've never seen this before? We must find them all!

 

Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most... human.

 

Found this on youtube a little while ago. Thought it was pretty impressive.

 

THE SEED IS STRONG.

 

Love the black licorice thing. That stuff is so gross.

 

Watching some of Superman: The Animated Series. It's interesting how much of the introductory episode on Krypton actually lines up with Man of Steel, including Jor-L being a gun-wielding action hero, going up against Braniac's machinations instead of General Zod. The underlying current of their society becoming stale and old is there, as well, as STAS shows their ruling council depending on Braniac to basically run the world for them. The main difference is the aesthetic; STAS's Krypton is more retro-futuristic, very pulp '50s sci-fi, MoS's Krypton is more an amalgamation of modern fantasy and sci-fi settings.

The show and movie's portrayal of Superman's character, his morals and his ideals, is almost identical as well, except that STAS Superman doesn't have to fight a fellow Kryptonian his first time out and actively tries to avoid destruction if he can help it. The route that they take to get to being Superman is different, since MoS couldn't keep Kevin Costner alive but STAS has Johnathan Kent alive and well; STAS Superman takes up the cape because he wants to help people, MoS takes up the cape because if he doesn't, the world will end.

I don't really have a point to make, just observing. A lot of the flack that MoS gets is that it isn't the Christopher Reeve Superman movie, ignoring the fact that the character has changed a lot since the '70s and when you try to copy that version of Superman, you get Superman Returns. STAS is a sort of bridge between the two, an idealistic hero and universe that still has undertones and currents of drama and angst. MoS isn't a particularly good film, but at least it was trying something new, to forge its own version of the mythology that would fit into a more realistic, cynical world. My problems with the movie are much more in its scatterbrained tone, flat characterizations and "brown is realistic" visual style than anything.

Also, Toyman is one creepy mother-hubbard.

 

Cynical_Ben, I haven't seen MOS, but from what I have seen, I would say that it's too grim. In fact, I'd say DC's movies are too grim all around. Marvel isn't afraid to have fun; DC needs to take everything seriously. Even Arrow has become too serious for itself since Flash came around; Seasons 1 and 2 weren't what I'd call happy-go-lucky but there were light-hearted moments and good humor to balance out the grimness. From what I've heard of S3, it's even more grim than the previous seasons, as if all the light-hearted writing has transferred to Flash.

Also, I only ever remember seeing the last half of Superman Returns, and even that's extremely vague; I think it must've been at least six or seven years ago when I saw it. So I basically remember nothing about it. Can you give me a rundown on why everybody hates it so much?

 

That's a pretty frickin' huge difference, though. Of all superheroes Superman should not be one of the ones who's forced to take up the mantle just because of circumstances - he's a hero because that's just who he is. I'm not a particular fan of the Christopher Reeve Superman movies (his personal take is justly iconic, but the movies in general have a lot of problems), and I do respect the Man of Steel creatives for having a reasonably consistent vision, but whoever they were writing about just wasn't Superman.