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Info on the New Republic fleet. Humorous if also slightly pathetic and sad

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Matthew Trias, Feb 9, 2002.

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  1. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    From Cracken's threat dossier:

    "Critics of downsizing point out that while there is less of a demand on the modern Defense Force; the ships that remain are almost continually involved supressing piracy and smuggling,patrolling and serving their portside rotations. While the total number of ships is in the thousands, the actual for available for quick response ranges from several dozen to several hundred. The debate over operational readiness of New Republic Defenses continues."

    Well,I guess we know which side won that debate,eh?
     
  2. Darth McClain

    Darth McClain Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yea, its to bad too.
     
  3. Alion_Sangre

    Alion_Sangre Jedi Padawan star 4

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    If they scrapped the Guardian and Lusankya, I am gonna scream bloody murder.
     
  4. Darth McClain

    Darth McClain Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If they scraped the Lusankya, I'll be devistated. That ship rules.
     
  5. ReaperFett

    ReaperFett Jedi Knight star 6

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    Nah, then they'd have to kill Isard

    :)
     
  6. exar-tull

    exar-tull Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    i agree with alion_sangre on this,it would of benn stupid to scrap them.
     
  7. Syntax

    Syntax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yeah, I bet the NR fleet commanders would have been slapping their collective foreheads in anguish if they'd scrapped 'em, only to have the Vong roll into the galaxy.
    D'oh!
     
  8. Mateo

    Mateo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Instead of scraping the Lusankya the New Republic could have sent it on a mapping mission into Wild Space or the Unknown Region's where it could very easily map huge parts of the unknown region's and sectors of space and done valuable scouting work for the galaxy at large, and because of its huge size and firepower it could easily handle any hostile aliens out there while doing its job.
     
  9. LaraNotsil

    LaraNotsil Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    After the war it was considered politically correct to do anything and everything to prolong peace and shun militaries, thus the senate downsized the navy©©©

    While it was stupid, it is a mistake they will never make again©©©
     
  10. chissdude10

    chissdude10 Jedi Youngling star 5

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    UR? The NR didn't care much about the UR, only anthropoligests.
     
  11. Elite_Guard

    Elite_Guard Jedi Master star 2

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    lol... sometimes you wonder by what random twist of fate the rebels won...
     
  12. Alion_Sangre

    Alion_Sangre Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Because the Emperor was a moron.
     
  13. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    No.

    Blind luck.
     
  14. Kier_Nimmion

    Kier_Nimmion Jedi Knight star 5

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    It was blind luck that Luke redeemed his father?



     
  15. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Well...all their subsequent victories were due to blind luck.
     
  16. KansasNavy

    KansasNavy Jedi Master star 4

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    It's the men, not the machines. And the NR fleet is much bigger in SbS. 10,000 ships alone fought in the Battle of Black Bantha. I'd think the Battle of Coruscant had over 15k warships involved. And its still not enough to fight the Vong.
     
  17. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Yes,and that was half the fleet.

    The Empire had a million or so ships. [face_plain]

    So did the NR at one time,but they downsized their fleet.
     
  18. Kier_Nimmion

    Kier_Nimmion Jedi Knight star 5

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    And its still not enough to fight the Vong.

    But what did it cost the Yuuzhan Vong? They're hurtin', I can almost guarantee it.


     
  19. Samuel

    Samuel Jedi Master star 4

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    Gosh I knew the NR didn`t have as impressive a fleet as say the Empire, but I had no idea it was that bad [face_plain]


    heh and they did kill Isard, and ironicly enough they killed her on the Lusankya....

    it was an "accident":eek:

    Can`t wait for the Aaron's books, gonnd be interesting to see how the fleet is doing after SbS.
     
  20. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Let's just put it this way. 25,000 Imperial I and II class Star Destroyers were the CORE of the Imperial navy.

    They had many thousands of Carracks,Victories, Nebulon B frigates,Escort Carriers, Interdictors,Strike Cruisers,Dreadnaughts,....you get the idea.
     
  21. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Oh yes, and not to mention that the Empire wouldn't hesitate in attacking a threat.




    I'm pulling the section in italics from my post at the thread 'The Empire'.


    The Rebellion did NOT bring down the Empire.

    Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker did. The Rebels were losing at Endor, and they could not topple the Empire. Things were bad for them.

    The Empire is impervious to large attacks. The Yuuzhan Vong would not use Rebel tactics, they would fight with large fleets. And they would be wiped out.

    You have the power of the Emperor and Lord Vader, along with Death Stars, and the Imperial Fleet. You have the sheer intelligence of twelve Grand Admirals, numerous Moffs and an entire Imperial culture. The Rebels never faced the Empire's best. Even the fleet at Endor was a single Sector Fleet led by one of many admirals.

    When Imperial might returned, with Isard, Thrawn, and His Imperial Majesty, the Rebels lost.

    Isard made the mistake of losing Coruscant, without that, the Rebels would've never gained too much support.

    Thrawn and the Emperor showed how the Empire, weakened and only in a fraction of its power, could drive back the Rebellion.

    The Yuuzhan Vong would've failed. Utterly.

    Remember the EC? Nom Anor convinced Jax to sabotage Palpatine. Nom Anor helped bring down the Empire. They knew of its threats.

    Don't start on the Vong warriors, either. Royal Guards have outfought Jedi, and have never fallen in combat. They could handle most Vong warriors, and the Emperor... well, he'd finish them all.

    Sith magic could infect the Vong organics, and utterly kill them.

    The NR is a proven failure. It is no diffent then the Galactic Republic of old. The Emperor's New Order fixed all those problems.

     
  22. Samuel

    Samuel Jedi Master star 4

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    here, here Jello! *whips away a tear* Well written thier Jello.

    Thats a good point Matthew, makes you wonder just how large the Imperial Fleet was...

    25,000 ISDs, with 24 ISDs assigned per sector group with each sector having atleast 2,400 ships, 1,600 of which was combat vessels...

    Makes one wonder just how many sectors there was. heh I'm too sleepy to do the math :p

    Really makes the New Republic Fleet seem "pale" incomparison.

    oh btw, I got that information from the WEG Imperial Sourcebook.
     
  23. Kier_Nimmion

    Kier_Nimmion Jedi Knight star 5

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    True, all true, GrandAdmiralJello. And also completely meaningless since 'coulds' and 'wounds' amount to nothing in the Empire's case since it no longer exists in anything approaching it's once fascistic glory.

    It is fun to speculate what the Empire might have done if they were still around.

    Thrawn could not defeat the Yuuzhan Vong- because he's DEAD. Nor could Isard, the Emperor, Sate Pestage- the end is listess, as they say.

    I admit that the New Republic military was (and is) utterly incapable of meeting the Yuuzhan Vong threat- and I lay the blame squarely on Zahn's shoulders for that since he alone set the stage five years after Anakin and Luke Skywalker defeated the Empire at Endor, and made sure the Republic fleet was puny enough to allow Thrawn to be an actual credible threat.

    But if the New Republic had tens of thousands of warships when Thrawn appeared, then he surely would have lost, since the fleet would be impervious to attack.


     
  24. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    The Imperial fleet was a t least a million ships strong. I'm pretty sure some sources state that it was MILLIONS strong.



    "The NR is a proven failure. It is no diffent then the Galactic Republic of old. The Emperor's New Order fixed all those problems. "

    Actually the Old Republic was great success. It haD A vast militaryprobaly as large as the Empire's.

    After tthje battle of Rusaan,it began downsizing it until finally it had no military at all. Great for all kinds of lawbreakers.
     
  25. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    BTW,the NR did have a fleet as big as the Empire had in it's prime. It was only 5% smaller then the one the Empire had in it's prime. :p
     
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