Interesting Observations

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  1. STAR-WARS-FREAK-JPB Force Ghost

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    Here is a thread from a Message board I frequent. It is a Japanese Monster site but this is in the general section and discusses interesting observations made from a 501 member about Stormtroopers, why Luke decides to join up with Obi Wan and other stuff.

    http://azure.bbboy.net/monsterzero-viewthread?forum=15&thread=208
  2. lgtsbr Force Ghost

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    Jeff

    Unless we are members of that board we cannot access the thread on that topic.

    Please either copy and paste the info here (be aware of spoilers and preface if needed) or summarize for us.
  3. STAR-WARS-FREAK-JPB Force Ghost

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    Here it is.

    Opening scene, Imperial Stormtroopers board Princess Leia's yacht. Apparently her crew is not told just what is going to be boarding them, so they start a defense at the airlock where they are quickly cut down, then rout and flee in terror pursued by the Stormtroopers. Apparently they did not know that an entire Star Destroyer's worth of Stormtroopers was going to be boarding them, otherwise they would have surrendered rather than be mown down like dogs.
    Conclusion, the rebels lead their troops by lieing to them.

    Finding their position hopeless, the crew of Princess Leia's yacht
    surrenders. This in point of fact becomes the ONLY time we ever see
    combatants taken prisoner. The Stormtroopers are seen marching off the
    prisoners. Never, in any single subsequent film, do we see the rebels take
    prisoners. In point of fact, we have that interesting scene on the planet
    where the second death star's shield generator is located where an Imperial Biker Scout is clearly rendered merely unconscious in a hand to hand fight with Han. We never see anything else about this guy.
    Conclusion: The rebels, i.e., the "good guys" (yea, right) do NOT take prisoners, but the Imperial Stormtroopers, i.e., the "bad guys" do.

    The above even goes to the last scene of the last episode where, after the victory is won, we see no disarmed Imperial troops. Clearly the rebels killed them all, or gave them to the Ewoks who were cooking and eating them as part of the victory celebration.
    Conclusion: The rebels are not "nice people".

    It should be noted in that episode that when Han and Leia's little raiding party are trapped inside the shield generating building that the Imperial Stromtroopers first called on them to surrender, and even after Han ruthlessly killed the officer who demanded their surrender, the Stormtroopers still did not just gun them down (even though the second officer was clearly angry at the death of his comrade), but took them prisoner. They did not march them outside and slaughter them (for those who might think they were concerned about damaging the gear) but held them captive. This even though clearly their lives ment nothing to the emperor and it would have been more convenient to kill them all (except perhaps Leia, who might later have been turned to the dark side).
    Conclusion: The Imperial Stormtroopers were a professional and disciplined military force.

    When Obiwan learns that the Princess has been captured, he asks Luke to join him. Luke refuses. You should watch the scene carefully and think what Obiwan's body language means after Luke's refusal. He is clearly thinking how to change Luke's mind, but cannot use the force on Luke because of his Nascent Jedi powers. Some little time clearly passes before they leave, time perhaps for Obiwan to communicate with someone? We now come to the Jawa Landcrawler. Here Obiwan informs Luke that he should "look at these blast points. Only Imperial Stromtroopers are so precise.", this after earlier announcing that blasters are "random", implying they are inherently inaccurate, apparently requiring volume of fire to be effective. Again, look at Obiwan's body language, he is a man bent on convincing someone of something, and not necessarily the truth. He tells Luke things that a 'farmboy" would not know. (How is a farm boy supposed to judge "blast points" or whether or not they are "precise"? How does the farmboy know that Tusken Raiders always ride single file to hid their numbers?) More likely the raiders did indeed leave single file, and the side-by-side tracks are those overlaid by the Imperial Stormtrooper patrol that is in pursuit of these bandits. He then makes no effort to stop Luke as he races to his Uncle's and Aunt's home. This is clearly because he already knows they are dead, and how does he know? Because HE HAD THEM KILLED. This was how he was getting Luke to go along with him. Think about this. Does it make any sense for the Stormtroopers to have killed Luke's Aunt and Uncle? Would they have killed them and just left? Any reasonable
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