I don't see how you've proven this. Again, all you have done is use statements from people in the DOD to extrapolate policy outside the DOD, which is an incredibly incorrect assumption. (and there are other similiar statements as well) Gonk, you and a couple of other people in this thread keep engaging in this strange practice of disconnecting the people who comprised HWBush's administration from their roles inside of the same. It's people who make up the administration, not the other way around. My illustrations are more in a response to how these people are being characterized. The same people who organized Desert Storm, the same people who organzied Operation Just Cause and so on, are now are suddenly too inexperienced to do anything? Gonk, Wolofowitz was in charge of shaping the entire US military's policy when the Cold War was coming to an end. And the DOD most certainly would be involved in a clandestine operation within Iraq. It's why the Special Forces were created, and their primary mission is to train/support insurgencies within a target country. The CIA's primary mission is to develop intelligence assests outside of the US. That's not to say that there isn't some overlap, but your broad statement is incorrect. What do you think the position of SecDef entails? Together, the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of State shape US policy. Yes, I have made some assumptions based on what these people have said, but it isn't meant to a definitive pronouncement, only a response to how they are being characterized.