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Is Anakin really ever a Jedi?

Discussion in 'Augusta, GA' started by Malz4JESUS, May 4, 2005.

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  1. Malz4JESUS

    Malz4JESUS Jedi Master star 5

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    "You've failed, your highness. I am a Jedi, like my father before me." - Luke Skywalker

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    Can we say that Anakin was ever really a Jedi? He learned the Jedi ways, yeah, but [hl=blue]in the ROTS novel he starts to not want to be in the Order and says he's never fit in or believed in everything a Jedi believes. If you don't believe in the basic Jedi principles, how can you be a Jedi?[/hl]...he was never really a Jedi until Luke saved him...he never truly believed in the Jedi principles until that point, self-sacrificing, selfless care for another human being; even knowing and accepting that he could (and did) die.

    What do y'all think?
     
  2. LordJoda-181

    LordJoda-181 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I see you're point, but I look at it like this. *Not anymore spoilers than Malz's post* [hl=orange]Anakin was given the rank of Jedi knight, and as far as obi-wan knew, Anakin considered himself a Jedi. So when old Ben told Luke about his father he would have said he was a Jedi. I think that was more a lack of knowledge on Luke's part.[/hl]
     
  3. Malz4JESUS

    Malz4JESUS Jedi Master star 5

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    Yeah, that's true. Interesting topic though if you read ROTS.
     
  4. LordJoda-181

    LordJoda-181 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Have you finished the Novel?
     
  5. SoyTuPadre

    SoyTuPadre Jedi Youngling

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    I'm almost through...haven't gotten to the duel yet

    Have your read the whole thing yet?

    I'm so excited about the movie now...I'm gonna have a geek-attack at the theater waiting... :p
     
  6. LordJoda-181

    LordJoda-181 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I've finished and was starting it again when my friend took it back.

    It's funny how effective that book was. I was reading it wondering if Characters like Obi-wan, Yoda, Anakin, and Palpatine were going to survive. But then I was like oh yeah classic trilogy. :p

    I was scared when I was reading the book, but then I found out it was ok *Spoiler* [hl=orange] The Whole Yoda Kashyyyk sequence was only cut short for the book. We still get to see Chewie in the Film, kickbutt along side the Muppet Master.[/hl]
     
  7. Malz4JESUS

    Malz4JESUS Jedi Master star 5

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    I'm done reading it...WOW! The movie is going to be so awesome!

    I was worried about that too Joey! I was wondering what happened...where'd you hear that from?


    LOL, I kinda did that too...when

    *spoilers*


    [hl=blue]Order 66 was executed and Cody attacked Obi-Wan! The way it implied most every other Jedi failed to survive Order 66, I kinda got worried![/hl]
     
  8. LordJoda-181

    LordJoda-181 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I read it over in TF.N's book page. They had a summary of an interview with Matthew Woodring Stover during C3. He did because of the fact that-- [hl=green] The Yoda/Wookiee Sequence didn't really add to the overall story of Anakin's Convertion[/hl]
     
  9. Malz4JESUS

    Malz4JESUS Jedi Master star 5

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    Ohhh...that's weird that they didn't include it though...I can't wait to see that! I wonder if the children's book is written any differently?
     
  10. LordJoda-181

    LordJoda-181 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Probably, I don't know. But the kids story usually follows the movie pretty close. the Novel has more themes based writing.
     
  11. Malz4JESUS

    Malz4JESUS Jedi Master star 5

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    True. I'll have to borrow my nephew's book :D
     
  12. blueeyedjess

    blueeyedjess Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Got it on audiobook, but haven't listned yet. Niv is about 1/2 way through it.

    I would suppose that because Ani never made it to Master status, he could be considered "not quite a jedi", but maybe Uncle Georga didn't think that through.. :p
     
  13. Darth_Nivuahc

    Darth_Nivuahc Jedi Youngling

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    Ani became a Jedi when he had his braid cut off.

    He wasn't a Jedi "Master" though

    That's why he tells Obi in ANH "When last we met, I was but a learner, blah, blah, blah"

    He was a Jedi. He was not a Jedi Master.

    Case closed.

    And if you've never listened to an audiobook in your life, I highly, highly, highly recommend listening to ROTS.
     
  14. Malz4JESUS

    Malz4JESUS Jedi Master star 5

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    Ooooh, I've heard it was great!
     
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