Is anyone attempting to model the new Ep3 badguy?

Discussion in 'Scifi 3D Forum' started by Rebel Scumb, Apr 10, 2004.

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  1. PixelMagic Force Ghost

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    Do you plan on using cloth simulation on his cape?
  2. Ravenger Jedi Knight

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  3. PixelMagic Force Ghost

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    So exactly how are you getting stuck. Be more specific, and I might be able to help you.
  4. Ravenger Jedi Knight

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    wel i dont realy know how i should start
    my attempts so far havent real turned up much result
    so far ive started with a simple plane
    but i cant seem to keep the cape from going through the solid pieces
    it keep turning out bad
  5. JeneralJarJar Jedi Knight

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    Hmmm... well, I always start with a plane. If you're to be doing cloth sim then I'm sure you want to keep the polys down. Could you post a screenshot of where you're stuck?
  6. Ravenger Jedi Knight

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    look a couple of posts up you'll see it

    but why would i need to keep poly's down?
    sorry i'm new to sim cloth and all that stuff
    i just learned how to light a scene this morning
  7. JeneralJarJar Jedi Knight

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    Well, for the sake of speed during simulation and rendering, you have the lower-poly cape mesh, the simulation on top of that, and then the subdivision. At least that's how Max works, I've never really used Maya.

    If you're going to sim the cape, I would still have a couple folds modeled into it, like where it bunches behind the neck and shoulders. If you want to continue this discussion via PM I can show you some wireframes of cloth I've been working on. :)
  8. Ravenger Jedi Knight

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  9. PixelMagic Force Ghost

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    If you can PM me a younsend it link to your Grievous model, I might be able to help out with the cape.
  10. Ravenger Jedi Knight

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    no offense but i'd rather do it myself
    and i prefer to learn by looking at pictures of wireframes of how other people do it.
  11. PixelMagic Force Ghost

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    No problem, I understand. Sometimes doing it yourself is the only way to learn.
  12. Ravenger Jedi Knight

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    ladies and gentleman
    i present to you grievous with his new cape

    [image=http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7678/grievouscape2eg.jpg]

    [image=http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1371/grievouscape28me.jpg]

    alot of thanks goes out to jeneraljarjar for providing me with a wireframe of a cape he made
    to avoid any confusion tho i made this cape completly by myself AND!
    this is my very first attempt at modeling cloth and i am personaly very proud of it
    i still have the pockets for his lightsaber left to make but that is easy i think.

    awaiting feedback.

    (please tear it to shreds i can take it:p)
  13. RyiokuXL Jedi Master

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    lookin good, however the back of the came looks a bit too flat, may be the lighting or the angle or something though
  14. JeneralJarJar Jedi Knight

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    That looks really good! I especially like where it connects in the front. The only thing I would change is the thickness of the cape. It looks like a double-sided flat poly.
  15. George Mezori SCIFI 3D Scifi 3D Forum

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    Looks really good. I like the way it looks and drapes.
  16. Ravenger Jedi Knight

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    thanks and wel thats because it is a 2 sided flat poly i'll try to change the thickness
  17. RyiokuXL Jedi Master

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    Ravanger, thanks by the way for using my Roto'd pic of grievous on the scifi3d.com thing :D
  18. PixelMagic Force Ghost

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    The question is, can it handle cloth simulation?
  19. Ravenger Jedi Knight

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    wel that i still gotta find out i have thickend the cape and ive added the saber pockets
    now i have to figure out how to use the cloth sim

    i know maya has that function built in so i just gotta figure out if it works
  20. George Mezori SCIFI 3D Scifi 3D Forum

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    There's tons of tutorials at 3DTOTAL. I just saw this one this morning featured at CGnetworks
    http://www.computerarts.co.uk/tutorials/3d__and__animation/prt--porter
  21. Ravenger Jedi Knight

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    wel there are no cloth tutorials for maya that i have found on 3d total

    [image=http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3222/grievouscape36iz.jpg]
    here's grievous with a thickend cape and with the saber pockets.

    now all thats left is to try and get the cloth simulation to work
    and ofcourse the whole texturing deal
  22. RyiokuXL Jedi Master

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    nice... the pockets though, look like theres something in them when theres not, should that be like that?
  23. Ravenger Jedi Knight

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    wel i think so
    cause there's suposed to be something in them when the cloth sim is applied so that it can fold properly and if i need to put this should make it easyer to look good
  24. Cryptite_ Jedi Knight

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    Your going to tear your eyes out several times, and then more when you start working on your cloth sims. But after several months and sleep-less nights, you'll finally get it! Then you can dance and things.


    ...Well, it might not actually take months, but it is extremely unfun. Best of luck to you. When you get it working, it will look great!
  25. Ravenger Jedi Knight

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    thanks for those encouraging words lol :p
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