Is "Darth" a ranking? Why is Anakin called Vader?!?!?

I think, or assume, that Darth is a rank for second to best man in the Sith order.

But why is Anakin given the name Vader? It's a awesome name, but where does it come from?(in the story, not real life)


Bonus: How can Vader use force choke with a bionical hand? I thought the force was only used in living organisms...

Please post. These questions may or may NOT be answered in Ep. III.

 

Im not sure about the Vader part, but when did the force come out of the hands? ? i thought it was all in the head.

 

They haven't really explained the Sith naming system and I doubt that they will. It seems though that 'Darth' is a first name given to all Sith, master and apprentice. The last name is probably assigned by the master. But like I said, that's all speculation.

 

Darth is the title given to a Sith, if deserving.

Why is Anakin called Vader? All sith are given new names. Why is this done? So their identity won't be revealed and so they feel like a new creature. Darth Maul's real name isn't Maul, it's just a regular Zabrak name.

 

All Sith are called 'Darth' something. I think we can assume that either Palpatine or Anakin himself picks 'Vader'.

Though his hand- and probably a lot more of his body- is cybernetic, Vader himself is still a living organism. He breathes.

 

Well in dutch I think it is "Vader" means father

And if Darth was a rank for second to top Sith, then why does Sidious use it?

Sith always have their real name and when they become Sith are given/choose/whatever a new name. I'm guessing all the last names of the Sith have hidden meanings like Vader's

I think Maul basically means bad in some language, and I'm betting Sidious and Tyrannus have sinister meanings or meanings that relate to their characters

 

"Darth" is a title, like General or King; all siths have Darth in their name.

As for "Vader"...well, all of the sith names are derived from ominous and malicious words:
MAUL
TYRANNOUS (Tyrant)
inSIDIOUS
inVADER

 

And if Darth was a rank for second to top Sith, then why does Sidious use it?

Darth isn't the heck a title for the second to the top sith! It's a title for all sith fully trained in the fighting and force techniqes. And why do you mean by why doesen't Sidious use it? If you mean what i think you mean, Sidious does use it, although around his presence his lower officers or sith just use the term 'my lord'. If you've not noticed, Dooku did use the name Darth Sidious at the end of Episode II.

 

Darth is a title for ALL Sith. As for Vader, I don't know. Perhaps someone gets to choose his name.

 

"Darth" is a title, like General or King; all siths have Darth in their name.

I agree with that. The word itself doesn't have any real specific meaning. Just a title.

And I'm glad we've made it this far in this thread without anyone bringing up the lame idea that it stands for DARk Lord of the SiTH.

 

We will probably find out why he is called Darth Vader in Ep. III.

 

Darth is a title.

 

Darth is probably darth because it conjures the idea of both "death" and "dark".

...Or maybe Lucas just made it up in his head one day. Who knows.

The Sith are all given new names for a couple reasons, I'm guessing:

a) The name is like a baptism or confirmation; it confirms that they have become a new (and, in theory better) creature; it also marks them as members of the religion and gives them all the benefits befitting one of the religion.

b) Sith operate primarily in the shadows, so having "sith" names keeps their true identities from being discovered.

 

Darth is the equivilent of 'Chyren' here.
Like if I were to once again join mod squad, thus, become evil and twisted, my title would be
Chyren That Wascally Droid.
Ooo just rolls off the tongue don't it?

 

I think Maul basically means bad in some language, and I'm betting Sidious and Tyrannus have sinister meanings or meanings that relate to their characters

Yeah, Maul means something bad in english...

To injure by or as if by beating: The boxer mauled the other fighter. The critics mauled the novelist's first effort. See Synonyms at batter1.
To handle roughly: The package was mauled by the careless messenger.
To split (wood) with a maul and wedge


Insidious :

in·sid·i·ous
Working or spreading harmfully in a subtle or stealthy manner: insidious rumors; an insidious disease.
Intended to entrap; treacherous: insidious misinformation.
Beguiling but harmful; alluring: insidious pleasures.

Tyrant :

ty·rant

An absolute ruler who governs without restrictions.
A ruler who exercises power in a harsh, cruel manner.
An oppressive, harsh, arbitrary person.


Invader :

in·vade v. in·vad·ed, in·vad·ing, in·vades
v. tr.
To enter by force in order to conquer or pillage.
To encroach or intrude on; violate: ?The principal of the trusts could not be invaded without trustee approval? (Barbara Goldsmith).
To overrun as if by invading; infest: ?About 1917 the shipworm invaded the harbor of San Francisco? (Rachel Carson).
To enter and permeate, especially harmfully.

So what do all the sith names have in common? They all have some sort of negative associationg with them, and are somewhat fitting to their personalities. Vader in this case is not the dutch word, father. I wish people would just accept it!

 

Actually, mal- as a prefix DOES mean bad or badly, and in latin 'malus' and 'male' meant bad.

 

I don't think the though of Vader meaning invader ever remotely crossed Lucas' mind
But that's just me.
Darth Wascally. Oooo tremble in fear!
Wascally Vader.... much better

 

I don't think Maul is so much a name intended to convey its owner's evilness as it is to describe his nature or purpose. "Maul" as a noun can also refer to an object used to bludgeon, and that's exactly what Maul was to Sidious - an unthinking weapon used to incapacitate others.

The source of Vader's name is harder to explain, but as someone else said, perhaps E3 will tell.

 

and in latin 'malus' and 'male' meant bad

As a male, I take offense to that!
*punts Sophita*

 

Hey, don't punt me, punt those crazy romans who used it.

 

in German language "Maul"
means : Maw or Mouth

 

I don't have a clue about the word Darth. It's just always been my first name.

dm

 

[face_shocked]
I've punted Sophita in vain
Damn Romans!

 

DARk Lord of the SiTH

It's the only way to explain it, IMHO.

 

Then why also call them Lord?