Is Darth Maul Really Stupid?

Wow, the thread that wouldn't die.

Maul was in no way, shape or form stupid. He displayed superb tactical fighting prowess up until his death. He totally mastered the tactic of divide and conquer. He knew Qui Gonn was the immediate threat, so he continually kicked and coerced Obi1 out of the fight. He used this to separate the two so that one could be easily defeated. He was successful to the point of brilliance in his tactics. This is why his death pains me so to look at it. I've said this before in other threads, and I'm saying it again: Absolutely nothing leading up to that point suggests such an annoying and inept death sequence for Darth Maul. He defeated a Jedi Master...handily. Why such an anti-climactic death at the hands of a padawan?

He was not stupid. He was the victim of bad writing and story progression syndrome. Watch out! It might be contagious.

P.S. Using his "youth and arrogance" as an excuse is just a quick out. Save it.

 

yes and jar jar must die

 

I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who doesn't think Darth Maul stupid.

and I agree with Darth_Poutine that they did not no how to end either fight.

 

So ture oODarthWadeOo

 

this is the Mother-of-all-Sith-Conspiracy-Theories: what if Darth Sidious sent Darth Maul on a semi-suicide mission? what i mean by "semi-suicide" is that Sidious instructed Maul to make QG JINN his main target and that once QGJ is killed Maul's orders are to then kill Obi-Wan. Sidious could order Maul to do this and need-not give him a full explanation, after all Sidious is the Master. If Sidious is really as tuned-in as he appears to be, then it seems logical to assume that he would prefer that Anakin be trained by Obi-Wan than QGJINN. Sidious would be correct in assuming that Anakin could be "turned" to the dark side easier without the benefit of having been trained by QGJINN. Now, here's the real speculative part of my theory: If you look closely at the scene immediately prior to Maul mortally wounding QGJ, you will hear a sound... somewhat like a whisper, followed immediately by a look of confusiuon on QGJINN's face (It's there, believe me). Could Sidious have taught Maul how to momentarily distract QGJINN just long enough to distract him so that Maul would gain an advantage? Sidious could have provided Maul with a way in which QCJinn could be distracted. Once QGJINN is dead, Sidious'goal is met= Anikan will not be trained by JINN. Maul was definately caught off-guard by OBI-WAN's moves, or perhaps OBI-WAN used a little bit of anger to motivate himself which the Jedi are not supposed to use and therefore would not be anticipated by the Sith Apprentice. Palpatine just seems too happy at the end of TPM, extending congratulations to OBI-WAN and telling Anakin that his career will closely watched. Perhaps everything is occuring as he has forseen. OK. I'm ready for the criticism...thanks for your patience in reading this.

 

Darth Maul it a total incompetent.
Think about it.

He fails to locat a chrome-plate ship in the middle of a desert planet with 2 suns.

Gee, did it occur to him to wait for the Jedi & everyone else to get aboard the ship, then blast it to pieces from his own? Boy, that would have saved a lot of time, and killed the Jedi. OK, maybe he was supposed to take the Queen alive, so that wouldn't have worked.

THe job of the writer is not just to tell a story. The writer must tell the story in such a way that all of the characters remain in character, act only on information that they have, and show the audience how the characters come to understand the situation. In that regard, Lucas failed repeatedly with Maul. There is no explanation for how Maul knows the Jedi are on Tatooine, no explanation for how he found QGJ, no explanation for the character's motivations, and little point to the character existing, except as a token bad guy.

I also think that the fight choreography is mediocre at best. Lucas should have swallowed his pride and paid whatever it took to get Bob Anderson back.

 

Oh no! not stupid at all! Darth Maul was the highlight of that movie. I think that the director of the movie could have done a better job. I'm not certain if I am the only one who thinks so, but I found the movie to be a bit more suitable for the younger audiences. I read the book before I saw the movie and I was thrilled with the story. Some of my enthusiasm died out when I saw the movie. (And I am going a bit off the subject).

 

Yes, Lucas is a lousy director. He should have turned the whole project over to someone else, and just kept veto/over-ride power.
TPM is poorly executed in many respects, and Darth Maul is but one of them.

 

Yes, Lucas is a lousy director. He should have turned the whole project over to someone else, and just kept veto/over-ride power.
TPM is poorly executed in many respects, and Darth Maul is but one of them.

[face_shocked] I don't know whether to or to .

 

I actually thought Obi-Wan's move was pretty predictable 'cause they made the scene so obvious, I think it would've been cooler to have not shown him looking at the saber and pulling it closer and just let him do his stuff and wow the audience more

but there really wasn't anything else obi-wan could've done in that situation

I also thought that Obi-Wan took to long to swing in the shot, I mean, the rest of the film Maul is lightning quick, but in that shot he just turns around and stares and waits for Obi-Wan to slice him
the way it was shot, Maul had enough time to move or defend himself


but I still think it's an awesome move!

 

Darth Maul wasn't stupid. He was overconfident, hence "your overconfidence is your weakness", Luke ROTJ.

 

well, i doubt he went to school with the other kids, so ya sure.

 

This topic really just doesn't die does it?