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PT Is Hayden's Anakin iconic?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by LordThanatos, Dec 15, 2013.

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Is Hayden's Anakin iconic?

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  2. No

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  1. The Star Wars Archivist

    The Star Wars Archivist Jedi Knight star 3

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    Hayden's Anakin, in my opinion, is not an icon. Say a person who barely knows Star Wars sees a poster of the Hayden Anakin (without the lightsaber so its not obvious) and a poster of Darth Vader (also without the lightsaber.) Which one is more iconic? He is quite a well known character, but you cannot beat the iconicness of whom he becomes. He's more of a shadow of Vader.
     
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  2. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Agreed. If it weren't for "join me, we're family..." he'd be just another dead Jedi. ;)
     
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  3. son_of_skywalker03

    son_of_skywalker03 Jedi Master star 4

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    This is definitely something many (most?) Star Wars fans don't realize, or are unwilling to admit. TESB pretty much split the fanbase at the time. Many of the detractors claiming that it was such a departure from what came before that it hardly felt like Star Wars anymore. Had that been part of the internet age, the negative opinions of the films after ANH would've likely been far more prevalent.
     
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  4. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    So glad I woke up on the righteous side of that argument, back in the day.
     
  5. Lee_

    Lee_ Jedi Master star 4

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    For sure. The internet really brought this age where people like to be rude and nasty in talking about things, and acting like picking things apart with endless criticism somehow makes them sound cosmopolitan, hip, and intelligent; it really just exposes them for the trailer trash that they are. But yes, people would be criticizing ESB like they do the PT if it came out today, and pointing out all of the reviews that were panning it.
     
  6. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    ESB was criticized at one point?
     
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  7. son_of_skywalker03

    son_of_skywalker03 Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes.
    http://www.nytimes.com/library/film/061580empire.html

    And this one hardly holds it up on a pedestal many of those that strongly dislike the PT claim the OT has always been on.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/movies/review97/empirestrikesbackmartin.htm

    Mostly just a snippet in this one (halfway down the page)
    http://encoremag.com/new-york/articles/2505/great-movies-given-negative-reviews
     
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  8. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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  9. son_of_skywalker03

    son_of_skywalker03 Jedi Master star 4

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    Reread it with the third link.
     
  10. SnakeWesker

    SnakeWesker Jedi Master star 1

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    Say what you want about him. He is Anakin Skywalker, and always will be. An entire generation of Star Wars fans see him as their hero.
     
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  11. thederekens

    thederekens Jedi Youngling

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    Darth Vader is more iconic than Anakin Skywalker... you say Anakin and I immediately think of Darth Vader... James Earl Jones is the icon lol

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  12. son_of_skywalker03

    son_of_skywalker03 Jedi Master star 4

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    That's just it. That's your perspective. Not everyone shares it.
     
  13. Rauno

    Rauno Jedi Knight star 1

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    I wouldn't say iconic just yet. Yes, when i think of Anakin i immediately think of him but it's too early. Maybe in 5-10 years.
     
  14. MOC Vober Dand

    MOC Vober Dand Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think Alien and Bladerunner had fairly mixed reviews on their release as well. Guess only time will tell whether the PT can achieve the status that these filfms and TESB did long term.
     
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  15. Darth Raiden

    Darth Raiden Jedi Knight star 3

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    The Terminator also received mixed reviews at its release, so am told.
     
  16. MOC Vober Dand

    MOC Vober Dand Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I wonder how long it took for the weight of opinion to swing round. I wonder, say, how TESB was generally critically regarded 10 years post release.
     
  17. DRush76

    DRush76 Jedi Master star 4

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    There is no real answer this question. It's just a matter of opinion. What is the point of asking it?
     
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  18. MOC Vober Dand

    MOC Vober Dand Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    'Twould be pretty quiet round here if we only discussed things not subject to opinion.
     
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  19. V-2

    V-2 Jedi Master star 5

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    I asked this person in the spirit of scientific curiosity and your hypothesis proved correct.

    I also asked if they'd seen LotR and if they could, if required, point out Christopher Lee. A definitive yes for both of these. I then asked if they knew who he played in Star Wars and received another blank stare.
     
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  20. Barbecue17

    Barbecue17 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Yeah, lots of movies just take time to really catch on. I think ROTS has actually been pretty heavily reevaluated by many fans who initially rejected it since its release and is viewed in a much better light. I think by the time the ST hits we'll have a better idea about some of these things. Honestly, it feels to me that on most other places on the web and even many other Star Wars forums, the PT is still pretty unpopular.
     
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  21. Lee_

    Lee_ Jedi Master star 4

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    I think as the 3 SW generations assimilate in the years ahead (OT, PT, ST), there will be an appreciation for the PT. SW would not be anything like it is commercially/artistically speaking right now without the PT; it brought SW to a whole new generation of younger fans, which the ST will do also.

    BTW- it is not just movies that can take while to catch on- it is all forms of art. Many of the greatest, most influential works on earth (music, paintings, etc.) were only recognized in their greatness many years later, sometimes after the artist's death.
     
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  22. Barbecue17

    Barbecue17 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Very true. Just watch the greatest Doctor Who episode of all time, Vincent and the Doctor, as an example regarding Vincent Van Gogh! Completely unappreciated during his life!
     
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  23. skyrimcat9416

    skyrimcat9416 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Is Hayden's Anakin well-known? Definitely! But iconic? No.

    Don't get wrong, I one of the few people Hayden did a good job as Anakin, but he is definitely not iconic. That is a pretty big statement to make.
     
  24. Barbecue17

    Barbecue17 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I feel like iconic would be something best judged by people not on a Star Wars board.

    I'm really interested to see how his image is used (or if it's used) in marketing the ST. While we can be pretty sure that Darth Vader won't be in the film, I guarantee you we'll see Vader in marketing, ads, memorbillia, and other such accoutrements. We'll just have to see if Anakin Shows up.

    You know I think might be considered iconic? That poster with the young Anakin walking but casting Vader's shadow. I think a lot of other movies imitated elements of that poster and it was parodied a number of times. I might be wrong, but I always felt that was a strong image that the public really embraced, even before they saw the films.
     
  25. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Force Ghost star 5

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    great points by Lee

    if you notice every successful film that comes out now the sequel that follows it inevitably 'disappoints' the fans. If you like something , whether it be a movie, a song, a politician, a car, the last thing you want to do is read people's opinion's of it on the internet.
     
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