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Is Indy 4 that bad?

Discussion in 'Lucasfilm Ltd. In-Depth Discussion' started by skywalker_san, Mar 12, 2011.

  1. B99

    B99 Force Ghost star 6

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    I really love the music in KOTKS!
     
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  2. Darth__Lobot

    Darth__Lobot Jedi Master star 4

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    Short answer - yes

    Longer answer - yeeeessss

    I coiuld barely sit through it
     
  3. CaptainHamYoyo

    CaptainHamYoyo Jedi Knight star 2

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    While interesting, it could turn really bad. Indy is still a ladies man. Without knowledge that he even has a daughter, and her thinking Collin Williams is her father, that quicksand(or was it dry? Lol) conversation with Marion could turn really awkward this side of that Luke/Leia kiss, lol


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  4. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Master star 4

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    Short answer: No it's fine

    Long answer: Has good action, some cool homages, felt like it fit the period(fifties Cold War), didn't mind Lebouef at all, and liked it.
     
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  5. ezekiel22x

    ezekiel22x Force Ghost star 5

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    My only complaint was that Indy's retinue was a bit too big. Well, that, and I've never been a big fan of Marion. Aside from that I thought it was really fun. The alien motif and Mutt as a greaser were brilliant ideas.
     
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  6. mJedi775

    mJedi775 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Still liked it better than TOD. Supposedly the Nuke the fridge scene was a homage to Spielburg's original time machine in Back to the Future.
     
  7. redinight

    redinight Jedi Master star 1

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    No, it's not that bad. It suffers from the same prequel issues; expectations and different execution. It's nice that it tries something different with the mcguffin. It fits the times.
     
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  8. Emperor Ferus

    Emperor Ferus Jedi Knight star 4

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    I've never liked Indy being a ladies man, it makes him seem unlikable in my perspective. I prefer a consistent love interest, or at least a good reason why the others aren't around (Willie, Marion).

    I'm glad Indy and Marion married in Crystal Skull, I wouldn't want it to be just another relationship that will end by number 5.
     
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  9. Jedi Master Chuck

    Jedi Master Chuck Jedi Knight star 1

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    I really enjoyed the fourth movie. The fridge scene was silly, which does break my suspension of disbelief a bit. But otherwise, I still thought it was a really good movie. When I first saw it, before I turned to the internet, I know my impression leaving the theater was very positive.
     
  10. AndyLGR

    AndyLGR Jedi Master star 4

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    I avoided all spoilers before seeing KOTCS and I left the theatre extremely disappointed.
     
  11. TheMoldyCrow

    TheMoldyCrow Jedi Knight star 3

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    I wouldn't say it's a bad movie, but it is pretty dull in my opinion. I tried watching it on TV years ago, and couldn't make it through the whole thing. Haven't seen it since.
     
  12. DrDre

    DrDre Jedi Master star 4

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    My girlfriend and I had the same experience. She had never seen any of the Indy films. She really enjoyed the first three, but we never finished KOTCS.
     
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  13. ewoksimon

    ewoksimon Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Nah.

    It's goofy, but not considerably more than any of the other films. And Irina Spalko is the second best Indy villain behind Belloq.
     
  14. Kuestmaster

    Kuestmaster Jedi Knight star 2

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    It's not bad, but it could have been much much better.

    Ditch Marion and Mutt. Make Indy actually shoot some bad guys. Harrison was in good shape, he could have seen more action.
     
  15. Nibelung

    Nibelung Jedi Padawan star 2

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    The best part of Indy 4 is Cate Blanchett's character. Darabont's draft was OK, but his villain was dull and uninteresting. (That character basically became Mac in the film we know.)
     
  16. Jester J Binks

    Jester J Binks Jedi Master star 4

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    Is Indy 4 that bad? I don't remember, but I have zero interest in watching it again to get the answer. It being bad can only be a good thing. It sets up the pattern that Indy 5 will be good.
     
  17. Nibelung

    Nibelung Jedi Padawan star 2

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    I thought that only applied to Star Trek films. :p
     
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  18. StarGuppy

    StarGuppy Jedi Youngling

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    I absolutely loved Crystal Skull. It was like visiting old friends again after a long absence. But even with all the sentiment aside, it was a really fun movie. It had an intricate plot and the sci-fi aspects were not an easy thing to fit into the more terrestrial subject matter often associated with Indy. But it was all done rather nicely. The best thing about it was that Marion was back. She is THE Indy girl and I'm glad Spielberg didn't insist on Kate Capshaw because of any bias for his real life wife. Don't get me wrong, I love Kate, but Karen Allen is the one for Indy. Shia Labouf was okay, but I really loved George's idea of Indy having a spitfire daughter. That would have been so fun and fresh.
    The fridge scene seems to be the point of a lot of controversy because it's too improbable. I think that's part of the fun. In Temple of Doom when Indy's mine car goes flying off the tracks and across a wide gap only to land perfectly on the continuing tracks on the other side, it's a source of good humor and fun. It's not supposed to be realistic and it could have been cut altogether. They put it there because it was entertaining. Indy, like the James Bonds of old, are supposed to be a little bit fantastic and push the boundaries of belief because they're like comic books. They should never be taken too seriously or lose any of that sense that these are strictly for entertainment purposes. As great entertainment, this movie delivers.
     
  19. Nibelung

    Nibelung Jedi Padawan star 2

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    It's worth pointing out there is an alternate Indiana Jones canon available: the 1990s bookends from the original TV airings of The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. 93-year-old Indy has an eyepatch, a cat, and a red-headed daughter... and no Mutt in sight.
     
  20. Jo Lucas

    Jo Lucas Jedi Knight star 4

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    I haven't watch it yet, but people seem to complain about these "intradimensional beings" created by George. I can see why people hated this decision since IJ is not a sci-fi...

    But the jungle chase is pretty cool, I recently watched a clip. Good directing, Spielberg!
     
  21. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    I thought the aliens fits the 50s alien invasion movie time period. And the fact that everyone is scared of Communist infiltration which Indy writes off as bogus but it turns out they're totally actually attempting Communist Alien Mind Control, which is pretty much the worst pulp story fear from that era.
     
  22. DJT

    DJT Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I like the film until the part with the aliens. Totally out of place.
     
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  23. Gobi-1

    Gobi-1 Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    There are no aliens in Crystal Skull. They're inter dimensional beings.
     
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  24. themoth

    themoth Jedi Master star 4

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    I feel the same way these days. It's fun, pure and simple.
     
  25. Bob Effette

    Bob Effette Jedi Knight star 3

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    The only part I like is the entire Peru sequence. The rest is awful.