Is it futile to try to fit the entire EU into one all-encompassing continuity?

Nope, it fits well enough already. My only reservation about the Infinities choice is the GODV series. At times I think it would help if that was Infitites, but it has alrady been referenced in a few places. I think with a little elbow grease it will fit, but it would be a whole lot easier if the series was just slapped with an Infities label.

 

How people can want the GODV series gone and not the Holiday Special, I will never understand.

Take your pick...Trioculus...or Wookiee porn.

 

I consider myself a completist, but I have to go with "No, though declaring certain..." category. And by "certain", I don't mean applying the label to books or comics- most continuity problems can be fixed by ignoring one or two troublesome lines.

 

Everything can fit, even with complex fixes... That is, except what is labelled Infinities AND contradicted/clearly just 'fun'.

"Wookiee porn"... Gotta remind me what you're refering to exactly... I heard that before, but I forgot again what it was all about... And I AM NOT going to watch the holiday special again !!!

 

Whoops, I forgot about the Holiday Special. I guess if that's official, then GODV is ok.

 

yes, HS is not only official it's been said to be canon occasionally as well(back when canon meant only the movies/films), and it has been refrenced or been used as source material by marvel, bantam, and even del rey for the knowledge of kashyyyk and chewie's family. Pictures from it have made it into several books including star wars chronicles book.

 

I?m going with 'No, though declaring certain problematic parts of the EU ?Infinities? would certainly help'.

All I want is for Han and Leia?s first marriage to be gotten rid of. It doesn?t make sense for these characters to have gotten married and then gotten it annulled without ever mentioning it again. That simply doesn?t fit the characters with any stretch of the imagination.

 

Some "classic" Star Wars comics should be ignored. Also, I have no idea where the Xwing comics fit into continuity, though the novels are pretty clear.

The following books should be removed from continuity, because they make no sense:
Children of the Jedi by Barbara Hambly
Planet of Twilight by Barbara Hambly
The Crystal Star by Vonda N. McIntyre
"worldships" built by the empire? yeah, right. and whatever the hell happened to Callista?

On a final note: the whole novel expanded universe continuity has gone down the crapper 'cause Lucas strongly implied stormtroopers are clones. Then again, that senile old... has already caused discontinuities between movies: "You will learn from the same Jedi Master who instructed me..." I'd rather accept Zahn's novels as canon than the prequels. At least most Star Wars authors do decent research and make things fit, unlike Georgie.

 

It would be hard to remove such mainstream novels from continuity, they're referenced in to many places. And the clonetrooper thing has already been fixed in the GBG Guide.

TC

 

Clonetroopers were never a threat to the EU anyway.

 

DARKAURUM, Yoda did instruct Obi-Wan, he just wasn?t the only Jedi to do it. GL never contradicted himself.

And to take The Crystal Star out of continuity would ruin over half of the YJK books and SbS just because of one character that was introduced in that book (Lusa). Just taking that character out of the continuity ruins a whole lot off other things. Just imagine if all of the books that you mentioned were taken out of the continuity! Loosing Callista would ruin Darksaber and the Zahn Duology (and many other books, I?m sure), and I don?t think that you want that to happen.

Taking an entire book out of the continuity would send shockwaves through the rest of the EU. However, taking little parts of the books that have never been mentioned anywhere else in the EU out would be a different story. It would also help if the book itself that is being picked apart was hardly mentioned at all in the EU. This would allow Han and Leia?s first marriage to be taken out without any shockwaves.

 

Bib...
"Clonetroopers were never a threat to the EU anyway."

But they easily could have been had Atha Prime been able to unleash his reign of terror.

 

I answered Yes, it is futile because it's too big.

Pretty soon there will be too much backstory. The people at Lucasfilm and Del Rey don't know the whole story, despite having a so-called Bible. Who do you think some of the acknowledgements are in the NJO books? Fans who do research gratis because LFL/DR doesn't know it, nor want to waste the time to find out. Best to let a limited number of fans do the legwork for you.

And taking a book out of canon/continuity doesn't necessarily screw up the continuity. Just because a character is introduced in one book doesn't mean they'll be forever erased. The next book they are in becomes the book they are introduced in.

Comparing this poll to my poll, it would seem that if one or two books were slapped with "Infinities" labels, more people would be completists.

 

With only two movies left to be made, I say that it fits together (almost) perfectly. That's not to say that tweaks aren't needed here and there, and that everything is entirely enjoyable, but things fit.

Go EU!

 

Nope. As Bib is always fond of saying, everything fits together already as is.

 

Jade's Fire...
"The people at Lucasfilm and Del Rey don't know the whole story..."

No need to limit things to that list. Bantam was much more ignorant of the whole story than Del Rey ever was, remember. Whole levels of ignorance more than Del Rey.

Remember the Bible was done early on in Bantam's watch because LFL realized everyone was so ignorant. They created the Bible and they didn't have any clue what was going on.

At least Del Rey does to a much better degree.

But, my main point is that no one's immune to the large scope of Star Wars.

However, even still, it doesn't mean it's futile to try.

 

I feel everything would of worked out if more standered guidlines were discussed between Lucas and variouse authors. However being reluctant as Lucas is of the EU, they didn't. Now, we have books based on no research whatsover for children, and a Golden-Blob shield dude, bouncing through dimensions.

My answer then is No, but some matter must be rethought, for example Crystal Star no doubt.

 

"Now, we have books based on no research whatsover for children"

Wrong read the forward, it lists all the people involved with the research and continuity editing for the children's books. Many of which are the ones who did research for the "Adult" books. So your use of the words "No Research", is flawed.

"and a Golden-Blob shield dude, bouncing through dimensions."

Just because waru is ulgy sonofagun, he isn't a continuity error. Dimensional travel can be traced all the way back to marvel.

 

I disagree Val, CS was written as a Sci Fi book, not a star wars novel. For one, the characters wern't expressed in their usual "natraul" state. Plus Waru in my opinion is cheesy, you got me cheesy. Like some other Marvel stuff.

 

I disagree Val, CS was written as a Sci Fi book, not a star wars novel. For one, the characters wern't expressed in their usual "natraul" state. Plus Waru in my opinion is cheesy, you got me cheesy. Like some other Marvel stuff.

That's not a continuity error, though, and it also does not mean research was not done. All it really means is that you did not like it.

 

Agreed, it is not a "error" per say, yet rather negligence of the author to thouroghly step up to the challenge of writing a star wars novel. Just because it is canon doesnt deafet the purpose that everyone hates it and wishes it never existed.

Face it, CS sucks, I know it can be worked into canon fine just look at it this way, it leads to really nothing at all, and it embarresed the Star wars community.

 

If we dismissed everything that everyone thought "sucked," then Star Wars would not exist - including the movies.

Chissdude...
"yet rather negligence of the author..."

What you've described is "user error," Chissdude. The fact that you didn't like it is in no way negligence on the authors part.

 

Genghis12, Valiento and maybe a few others who are really smart and belive lots os complex canon stuff, Maybe CS didn't suck for you, but the majority of sw hates it!

 

Popularity can influence business decisions, 'dude. But, it has nothing to do with quality.

You didn't like it. That's fine. Don't try and claim that an author was negligent in his/her responsibilities simply because your opinion is different.

A possible example of negligence would be someone knowing about something and ignoring it anyway, for example. However, "chissdude not liking Crystal Star" is not an example of negligence on the part of Vonda McIntyre.