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PT Is it just me that strongly dislikes Mace Windu and thinks he is overrated as a Jedi?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by CommanderTano96, Jun 12, 2013.

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  1. dsematsu

    dsematsu Jedi Knight star 2

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    I feel like his stoic nature is how Mace became a master. Realize that he is human and it is clearly harder for us to let go of our humanity and become beacons of absolute goodness. Mace is a rock because he has to be. I think Jackson portrayed him perfectly, and I don't believe he ever made a mistake; it was Anakin who made the mistake.
     
  2. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Actually, I can name two of them.[face_mischief]
     
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  3. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Even better.
     
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  4. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Combinations rule.;)
     
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  5. Sistros

    Sistros Jedi Master star 6

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    I'm not fond of the character either
     
  6. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If Mace rocked a beard like Chuck Norris, Sith would not have happened.
     
  7. Sistros

    Sistros Jedi Master star 6

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  8. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Oh hell. Not Chuck Norris.

    Mace wasn't overrated at all, and I really don't give a **** what color his lightsaber was.

    He created Vaapad, which IIRC is the highest form of lightsaber combat (level 8) and requires channeling enough aggression that the user toes the line on touching the Dark Side--but must have enough control over his or her emotions to not cross that line. He then used Vaapad to (nearly) defeat Palpatine in ROTS.
     
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  9. MOC Vober Dand

    MOC Vober Dand Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I reckon the Jules Winfield hairdo would've capped off Mace perfectly. And the facial hair too.

    If Mace had come in to arrest Palpatine looking like that the Dark Lord would surely have handed himself in there and then.

    "What are you doing here Master Jedi?"

    "Say what again..."
     
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  10. Sistros

    Sistros Jedi Master star 6

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    I think Denzel Washington would make a great Mace Windu,

    he'd have pulled off the stoicness and distrust better,

    SLJ just makes him look like an ***

    but eh just my opinion, no need to flame me or hit me in the head with a sock etc.
     
  11. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I love me some Denzel, but I think Mace was meant to be sort of an ass. Sort of.
     
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  12. DRush76

    DRush76 Jedi Master star 4

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    Ohmigod! :rolleyes:


    Yeah . . . like Yoda and Obi-Wan.



    This makes no sense to me.
     
  13. Michael McKean

    Michael McKean Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Mace may well have been acting on Anakin's information, but in no way does that mean he has to take him along. Who knows what would have happened if Mace had taken Anakin, but no doubt the clash with Sidious would have been much shorter. So I fully support Mace's decision to leave Anakin behind.
     
  14. sith_rhino

    sith_rhino Jedi Master star 1

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    I love Samuel L Jackson and I love the purple light sabre, but I wasn't too crazy about Mace Windu. First of all, I didn't think Jackson's acting performance was that great. Second, Windu seemed too arrogant (though perhaps that was the point) and a bit more angry than I would expect a Jedi to be.

    I respectfully disagree, granting this is with the hindsight that it may have helped sway him towards the Emperor's side. This is part of the arrogance (and IMHO lack of sound judgement for a Jedi) which Mace Windu displays. I think that you have to give a young person responsibility, and show them that you trust them, or else they will rebel. Anakin was clearly angered by Windu's lack of trust in him (I could see it at the time, why couldn't Mace?) and I think things could have gone differently if he'd shown some faith in Anakin.
     
  15. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Behind the beard, there exists a hidden fist...;)

    Chrome dome with beard = Jedi Badassery.

    Instead of a fist, Windu could have stashed a force push behind his.;)
    Then, maybe more people would love him... like the world loves Chuck's beard.:p

    Seriously, if Mace rocked a salted beard... would he seem more grandfatherly like Jinn and Ben? I still can't find anything on film that validates calling him "overrated", so I'm looking at the little things that could have made him more likeable.:)
     
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  16. DRush76

    DRush76 Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm curious. Why are so many fans determined to dump all of the Jedi's crap on Mace Windu's shoulders? Does this hostility stem from actor who portrays him? Do many of you feel that Samuel Jackson doesn't deserve to be in a STAR WARS movie, because he once portrayed Shaft? Is it because Mace was not a character in the OT, like Obi-Wan and Yoda? Right now, I find this hostility and penchant for making him the scapegoat for the Jedi Order very disturbing.



    Arrogant? :rolleyes: Was he supposed to "know his place" or something? The entire Jedi Order was arrogant.
     
  17. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Chrome dome with a beard is badassery, period.

    Chuck Norris has so much assery that I can't overlook to focus on his badassery though.
     
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  18. Reveen

    Reveen Jedi Knight star 3

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    Chuck Norris? Isn't he one of the thousands of people who had their asses kicked by Bruce Lee?
     
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  19. sith_rhino

    sith_rhino Jedi Master star 1

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    [Bait & Flame Removed. ~Sx3] As I stated in my post, I love Samuel L Jackson. As also stated in my post, his arrogance may have been intentional, as I said "though perhaps that was the point". Perhaps he is perceived as more arrogant simply because he has more lines in the movies than the other Jedi Masters, except for Yoda. We don't really get to know the other Jedi Masters very well, which is probably to their benefit, as we don't get to see how arogant they are as well.

    By the way, Shaft is awesome, both versions. ^:)^
     
  20. KilroyMcFadden

    KilroyMcFadden Jedi Knight star 3

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    I don't know why you are going the [Removed.] route. Sounds like [Removed.] I'm dumping this on Windu because he was a wasted character. Why bother to have the actor Samuel Jackson in your movie if you are going to waste his acting abilities? GL may have just as well used a CGI character for all the depth he failed to give him. It is my opinion that the character is totally overrated based on the fact that we love the actor that played him. [Removed. No backseat modding, thanks. ~Sx3]
     
  21. Michael McKean

    Michael McKean Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Your argument works well in a normal world, but a young Jedi is very different from a young person and they have more responsibilities. In short, they should know not to rebel. And quite frankly, Anakin didn't deserve Mace's trust given all that had happened beforehand e.g. Anakin's arrogant fury at being put on the Jedi Council but not as a Master.
     
  22. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't get it either. What makes Mace Windu the fallguy?
     
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  23. Darth_Arapsis

    Darth_Arapsis Jedi Youngling star 2

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    It would had been just as bad with George's direction.
     
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  24. MOC Vober Dand

    MOC Vober Dand Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Isaac Hayes might have been good.

    "Anakin, you're nothing but a Love Jones"
     
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  25. ILNP

    ILNP Jedi Knight star 1

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    1) Of course i've already formed my opinion. You do recall my original post where I said I disagreed with the OP right?.

    2) The OP's statements are by definition vague. They supply no examples to support their statements. Am I just suppose to guess at what the OP is thinking?

    3) I'm not trying to bait anyone. I was attempting to narrow the discussion down to specifics and discover where we agree and disagree.

    4) I'll thank you to not ascribe a hidden motive to my posts, especially since there was none.
     
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