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Census Is it ok to punch fascists in or around their face?

Discussion in 'Community' started by Ender Sai, Feb 2, 2017.

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can - and indeed, *should*, you punch a fascist in their face?

  1. Yes, it's a proud tradition

    58 vote(s)
    68.2%
  2. I'M NOT RACIST BUT no I think it's infringing free speech, violence isn't the answer, etc

    27 vote(s)
    31.8%
  1. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Then you punch yourself in the face - for dessert
     
  2. MrZAP

    MrZAP Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That indeed is a very good article. My view is largely compatible with Cohen's and Stern's. Punch him if he's being physically threatening; don't punch him for his views. It's immortal and also counterproductive when trying to work against them.

    I totally did feel schadenfreude about it at the time, though. But once again I agree with Cohen that that's different.
     
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  3. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Sometimes, violence is a necessary evil.
     
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  4. yeurgh

    yeurgh Jedi Knight star 3

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    I believe that being strong/being a capable fighter behoves a person to act in some situations. Reading about military veterans travelling to Dakota to stand between hired thugs and protesters brought a smile to my face. That's what strength is for.
     
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  5. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 10

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    ^ This.

    Bad guys use human shields. Good guys are human shields.
     
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  6. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    What if use bad guys as a human shield?
     
  7. Violent Violet Menace

    Violent Violet Menace Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  8. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    So if you use a drone strike or say, helicopter gunship to slaughter those bad guys and their human shields, and any other poor innocent discarded as collateral damage, do you remain a good guy or part of a vast imperialist power with scant regard for liberty or human rights? [face_flag]
     
  9. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Commonly known as "The Israeli Option"
     
  10. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 10

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  11. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    I thought it was the Obama Doctrine?
     
  12. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    He more or less borrowed it from the Israeli's.

    According to them, it is better to blow up an entire apartment block just to get one guy. Then, when the UN complains, say everyone was a member of Hamas but the raging fire burned all the evidence.
     
  13. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Worth noting.

     
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  14. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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  15. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Oh, I thought it was a new comic book series.
     
  16. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 10

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    [​IMG]
     
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  17. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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  18. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    I'm going to give a 'no' only because I don't trust Americans to accurately define fascism.
     
  19. SergeyX2017

    SergeyX2017 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Nazi skinheads vs. AntiFA, on a Russian TV drama

    :D

    That's how it goes does IRL too, over there lol

    I hate skinheads. We had a bunch in my school too, growing up over there. I fought with them, me and others, couple times. My mom is half-Jewish, my girlfriend was ethnic minority (Armenian), another good friend "ethnic" also, a Muslim Ingush from North Caucasus, I got no time for that nope

    Punched one of them, who was in my class, after he insulted my girlfriend. Pretty sure I got him good, knocked out a tooth.

    Other time, three of them, all big, older guys, came after my Muslim friend, outside, in the yard. I grew up with this dude, Magomed, you know. We went to kindergarten together, lived in same apartment building. We were like brothers from different mothers :) His mom taught math in our school (never seen her or Magomed's sister ever wear a hijab, btw, totally secular folks), and her on my mom were also old friends, from university :D So, you get it. We weren't blood, but closest thing to it without being it. I was in PE class, and someone told me that the skinheads are going after Magomed in the yard. We were playing Lapta, a Russian game like baseball (but not exactly, bats are square, instead of round, among other things). I just grabbed a bad and ran over there, without thinking. They were wailing on him already. He is a proud guy, Magomed, never in his life walked away from a fight, to this very day, he now competes as a boxer :) But these were three older guys (Grade 9, vs. us in Grade 6 back then). One of them was holding him, others were pummeling him. And I just smashed the guy holding him with the bat, right on the head. I am swinging madly at all of them, Maga is kicking at the one I bashed with the bat. Then, I recall another buddy of ours, Andrey (also our classmate, but he was a huge guy, we all called him Kalancha, Tower, he was already like, over 6 feet by then, he is 7 feet now, plays basketball lol) jumps in out of nowhere, and starts swinging his fists, which are the size of my nope head, btw. Three on three now, and I got a bat, remember, and was already, by then, training seriously in Thai kickboxing. Basically, we ended up humiliating those nope, actually haha

    We all ended up kicked out of school. The skins threatened to stab me or something later. Never did anything though. Because skinheads are nope.

    anakinfan edit: You need to familiarize yourself with our disallowed words policy.
     
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  20. Zejo the Jedi

    Zejo the Jedi Jedi Knight star 3

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    Is it ok to punch Feminazis?
     
  21. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    No, not is it OK to violate site policy against hate speech and sexism.
     
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  22. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    There is no such thing as a 'feminazi', bruh.
     
  23. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    When anarchists leave the basement...
     
  24. darth_gersh

    darth_gersh Force Ghost star 7

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    Yea, promoting violence.
     
  25. Dark Ferus

    Dark Ferus Chosen One star 8

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    Yes. In real life, I am easy to provoke into a fight, and I have zero tolerance for enemies of democracy and equality.

    The conservative dictatorship in power now would use me as anti left propaganda.