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Lit Is it possible for books to retcon things from TCW?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Iron_lord, Aug 25, 2013.

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  1. Hoss Delgado

    Hoss Delgado Jedi Knight star 1

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    It was a really pants twist too.

    Hmmm,
    the killer is dressed like Bariss,
    has the same height and proportions as Bariss,
    is a force-user like Bariss,
    knows where Ashoka was 5 minutes after she told Bariss,
    and Bariss is the only named character who isn't a series regular...

    MAYBE ITS ZIRO!
     
  2. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    It should have been Ziro.
     
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  3. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I am intentionally taking this discussion to this thread, because it's not relevant to LotF. TCW contradicts the Clone Wars multimedia project, because the multimedia project established the initial timeline of what happens between AotC and RotS, only for TCW and its tie-ins to come along in 2008 and come up with a new timeline. In other words, things like Ahsoka Tano being Anakin Skywalker's Padawan and Anakin being Knighted shortly after AotC never happened in the old multimedia project timeline, but since TCW comes from George Lucas himself and is its own new level of canon, T-canon, which is a higher level of canon than the C-canon multimedia project, the Clone Wars will forever reflect the new timeline. I refuse to accept the new timeline, because I was happy where I was with the old timeline.

    It's true that Labyrinth of Evil (LoE) isn't technically a Clone Wars multimedia project novel, but it might as well be.
     
  4. DoubleGold

    DoubleGold Jedi Knight star 1

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    Okay, now that's post have been moved to the correct thread, I'm going to ask again if my last post wasn't already moved.

    Okay, but if I read republic commando books, wild space, no prisoners, or the gambit duo, will it contradict anything I learn from any of the original clone wars books, labyrinth of evil or darklord?

    Edit: Zeta1127's post above me seems to confirm yes, still have to be sure on a few things though.
     
  5. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The Republic Commando series is fairly consistent with the multmedia project, since it is an offshoot, but the two Karen's TCW tie-ins, TCW novelization, Wild Space, No Prisoners, and Gambit Duology, might as well be their own timeline completely removed from the multimedia project,
     
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  6. newdawn12

    newdawn12 Jedi Master star 4

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    New timeline coming next month in the book Jedi Battles, Dec 13 2013
     
  7. DoubleGold

    DoubleGold Jedi Knight star 1

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    okay thanks, so don't read the other stuff unless I want to be confused, unless it is republic commando which barely ties in.
     
  8. newdawn12

    newdawn12 Jedi Master star 4

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  9. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Wasn't it actually listed in the "Timeline & Release Date" section that was in several of those multimedia project books? As were the Boba Fett YA books?
     
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  10. vw_jedi

    vw_jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    So essentially fans of the EU novels have usurped movie purists as the most stubborn people in the SW galaxy.

    Not accepting new materials and retcons because they don't jibe with your personal view of SW. Sounds very familiar. Just used to be a different group of fans preaching. Such irony.

    Perhaps soon there will be a T Canon Defense Force to argue with EU book purists. Lol...

    All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.
     
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  11. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Um, sorry, but when LFL comes up with a timeline for the multimedia project, only to throw it out the window for TCW and its tie-ins, it is kind of going to irritate a lot of people, especially since TCW seems to have intentional disregarded the EU, and even the films, whenever possible and T-canon appears to have been created with the express purpose disregarding C-canon without having to be G-canon.
     
  12. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    It is actually rather ironic.
     
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  13. _Catherine_

    _Catherine_ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  14. DoubleGold

    DoubleGold Jedi Knight star 1

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    So how many different timeline's of the clone wars do we have? I say different timeline's because other books added into them would contract each other, for example:
    We have the clone wars trilogy written by Karen Travis, the clone wars gambit duo, and clone wars secret missions which make up one timeline? Or does the clone wars secret missions series make up another timeline that contradicts clone wars, wild space, no prisoners and the gambit duo?
    From Shatterpoint to Labyrinth of Evil make up another timeline?
    The television show makes up a 3rd timeline?
    And the 4 Republic Commando books, can they fit into any of those 3 timelines without contradictory, or only certain ones?

    I count 3 different clone wars timeline's but I need someone's opinion who knows more about the clone wars than I do.
     
  15. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Secret Missions was a TCW tie-in I think. Clone Wars Gambit, and No Prisoners also use TCW characters, and Wild Space references TCW events.

    The Republic Commando books I think were supposed to fit the timeline of the Multimedia Project.

    I think The Essential Atlas put some effort into reconciling the two timelines.
     
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  16. DoubleGold

    DoubleGold Jedi Knight star 1

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    Oh, and when I say the television show, I should be clear about it, I'm referring to the 2008 television show that has 5 seasons. Unless that can fit in perfectly with TCW books without contradictory. They definitely wouldn't fit into the multimedia project though unless it was the 2003 television show with 2 seasons.
     
  17. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    No offence and sorry for bringing up our mortal enemies, but the whole debacle with the Clone Wars reminds me of the entire Star Trek novel timeline, each seems to contradict another sometimes
     
  18. DarthJenari

    DarthJenari Jedi Master star 4

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    It's been happening in pretty much any fanbase of note (Star Trek, DC, Marvel, Indiana Jones, Terminator, etc) for decades so it should. :cool:
     
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  19. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    But give headaches to some of the older continuity
     
  20. Arrian

    Arrian Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    And then of course, there was the Marvel Star Wars, which isn't canon anymore. Except when it is.

    Summary: lol SW.
     
  21. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    My favorite part of Marvel SW is how Lumiya gets killed in the final issue. Can't take SW seriously after she survived that. Lumiya died in 1986 of getting her chest obliterated by a blaster.
     
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  22. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Yeah, but if Lumiya survived then LOTF never could've happened!

    Oh. Wait.
     
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  23. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Considering I have never read the Marvel Star Wars, nice to know that some fool came up with the same idea when resurrecting Maul from an impossible situation.
     
  24. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    [​IMG]
    So tempted to make this my avatar.
     
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  25. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    The Starkiller thing is too hilarious to change. ^That...would just give me nightmares.

    Also, despite, "it looks like a Barriss, walks like a Barriss, talks like a Barriss, so it's a Barriss," thing, there were some on Rebelscum.com speculating that since she was wearing that black jumpsuit when she wore Ventress' mask...

    [​IMG]

    ...that she was actually Mara Jade. Disregard the fact that Mara wouldn't be born for another two years or so... :p
     
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