Rogue One Is R1 Your New Favorite?

You’re crazy man...

 

Solo and R1 are both tied for best of the Disney era for me. Both are great for different reasons. R1 has easily the best cinematography out of any SW film to me though. It's beautiful to look at.

 

Absolutely not. I think it's the worst film, by far, of the Disney era. However I haven't seen Solo yet, and am hoping to finally have a spin-off that I really enjoy.

 

I posted this video in another thread but, because it captures precisely why this movie is my personal favorite, I'll post it again

 

Of the disney titles yes R1 is my favorite. Though I will not see Solo until TNT because early Han backstory doesn't interest me. I could just break out the Smugglers book from like 25 years ago if I wanted for free instead of paying $.

 

Worst is harsh but I have Rogue One as my least favourite of the Disney films.

I enjoy the anthology films but they feel like filler (enjoyable filler and a great way to spend your Saturday afternoon) and I prefer the main saga (with the exception of the PT of course). For all their faults I have TFA and TLJ as my preferred Disney films - not 100% sure of the order.

Of the anthology films, Solo is more fun, far more memorable and more the way star wars should be. Rogue 1 has its place and is a good film but a bit too serious.

 

I am not crazy. Man.

 

If it's the last on the list it's the "worst".

I don't even think RO is a bad film, I just enjoy the other 3 much more.

 

I absolutely agree. Solo was fun-ish (I guess?) but most scenes were just so forgettable for me, especially compared to RO.

 

I think you provoke people by using dismissive phrases such as "easily the worst." That implies that there either is no, or should be no, debate about it being the worst. Given that this is clearly not the case, and that a lot of people here rate it highly, it comes across as insulting.

 

Why would someone be insulted by the fact that I prefer the other 3 movies more than RO? Given the subject of the thread, it should be clear that "easily the worst" is my own subjective take on the Disney movies.Nobody else is beholden to my opinions.

 

I LOVE Rogue One but I'm gonna defend Zackm's right to hold that opinion. It's all subjective!

 

Of course it's subjective. I would defend zackm's right to hold that opinion to the hilt if it someone tried to curb it. I was just talking about tone, and explaining why that kind of language might provoke people into defensiveness. For example, I hold the unpopular opinion that ROTS is the worst Star Wars film. I just try to avoid saying it's "easily the worst" because I'm aware that for a lot of fans, that's pretty provocative. Anyway, it was just a small explanatory post more than anything. Wasn't trying to be reprimandy.

 

I also don't dislike Rogue One. I quite enjoy it. When I say "easily the worst" I mean that I don't have any internal debate about which one is my least favorite of the new movies. I know, without a doubt, that I enjoy the other 3 movies more.

 

Far an away the best SW since the OT. Some things could be better but it made me remember how great a SW movie could be. I rewatch it often.

 

Thanks for that. Makes total sense. I'll chalk this one up to my own misinterpretation.

 

Right. But interestingly, I find the ending of Rogue One to also be a very optimistic one. Even in the most complete of disasters (the death of all the people we've all been rooting for) their spirits and their actions live on. And there's hope. Basic heroic stuff. But powerfully and uniquely presented on screen.

 

I've seen this line of thinking a lot, but I'm not sure I agree with it. I don't think any explanation is needed beyond "None of the 'spies' that stole the plans for the Death Star were directly involved in the three journeys we join Luke on." You could probably tell 100 stories about the Galactic Civil War that run concurrently to the OT that have little to do with what we were shown on screen.

 

I agree with this, but as the whole Rogue One crew dying really works for the Battle of Britain heroic sacrifice style story of the film, it's kind of academic. It was the right approach for this kind of narrative, independent of any superfluous explanation of where these characters were in the OT.

 

Right. They should all die because it's the right story to tell. Not to save the effort of having to explain why they're not in the OT.

 

R1 is an awesome movie. It was a huge surprise for me. It remains my 4th favorite after ESB, TLJ and ROTJ.

 

I actually agree with you on this. By the way, I personally love the ending the way it is. In a way, I don't blame them for choosing to kill the characters. BUT if they had survived (which could've easily been an option, especially for Jyn and Cassian), it wouldn't so hard to explain why they weren't in OT. Like you said, they could've went with "These characters are involved in a different story, not the one involving main trio and that's why he didn't see them". It's not really difficult, I would've easily accepted this, to be honest. It's a big galaxy and based on everything we know - rebellion is also large.

Again, I'm not criticizing the ending (I love it) - I just think their deaths weren't mandated just because they weren't in original movies.

 

Exactly. It wasn’t “necessary.” It was, however, good storytelling.

 

RO and Solo are both outstanding. I love TFA and TLJ, but both anthology movies are way better.

Both sit just below TESB as my all time favorite though, and just above ANH.

1. TESB
2. RO
3. Solo
4. ANH
5. TFA