I agree Hudnall. Name me one corporate exec that doesn't put a positive spin on lower earnings. Or a politician who spins a poll number in a different way. Look at the moviemaker who spins his film in a way that suggests a reasoning behind an aspect of the film that is a disappointment - box office or otherwise. Lucas is a pro, a politician, an entertainer. I think his movies are good and the story he is telling is fundamentally sound. But to suggest, in any other sense, that Jar jar came out exactly as he wanted and was received by the public exactly as he predicted is nothing more than SPIN. People that liked TPM said that the movie would have been that much better without jar jar. People and/or critics that gave a positive review of the film said that the film could have been done without his inclusion. People saw it as a senseless pandering to kids or as an attempt to showcase CGI - which he probably succeeded. However, that doesn't take away from the fact that he spins like everyone else. Whatever Lucas' intentions were is irrelevant. He didn't pull it off. Its funny that the passion of fans on both sides of the aisle comment that they are the true fans. True fans say the embrace and, in reality, defend Jar Jar because it was willed by Lucas that jar jar be in the movie. Lucas can't be wrong, can he? Others say that he misstepped. Yet if all the focus is on one character in reviews, in polls, in fan sites with either a defense or criticism of one character, that tells you that there is something going on. Why would SW fans completely re-edit TPM with jar jar omitted? why spend all that time and perhaps money? Why must SW fans defend jar jar to the death? What are they trying to preserve with one character who really doesn't add anything substantive to either film? Fact is, fans try to preserve Lucas's diminished mystique (diminished because of these last two films). The other side, my side I guess, wants the same thing, but recognizes that, perhaps, the old man has forgotten the one principle in business and entertainment that will always translate to success: Give the people what they want! We don't want Jar Jar.......and we don't need him either!