Discussion Is the Emperor really dead?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII - Spoilers Allowed' started by LANDO_ROCKS, Jan 31, 2013.

  1. LANDO_ROCKS Force Ghost

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    I've been thinking about this a while and I think it's not crazy to think that the Emperor could have survived being tossed down the reactor shaft by Vader in ROTJ.

    I know some will say "but you saw the big blue flash! He'd dead!" but I'll put money on him making a return in Episode 7 (or maybe 8).

    Thoughts?
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  2. Count Yubnub Force Ghost

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    As I recall, he exploded, and then he exploded again.

    But who knows.
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  3. LANDO_ROCKS Force Ghost

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    You see what you think is an explosion, you don't see him explode though do you?

    I mean, why did GL have Vader throw him down there? Why wouldn't Vader just cut him in half? It always bugged me that he chose to do that, but if you think about it maybe he was leaving the door open to have him return?
  4. DarthBreezy Chosen One

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  5. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    He asploded. Unless the new villain is Evil Sith Dust, I don't see him coming back.
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  6. Darth kRud Jedi Grand Master

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    You're going to catch a bunch of crap from people for even suggesting this but in your defense I'll point out Luke had his hand chopped off in Empire and took quite the leap down the same sort of shaft. I read something online were a guy actually had diagrams, we're talking charts and graphs, of the Death Star.....he had mathematical equations and models showing the explosion was way too soon for Sidious to hit any core reactor. After reading it I sat down and thought....this dude is REALLY into Star Wars...and I just spent ten minutes reading it.....oh my, what does this say about me (I thought). I've been single for almost a year now. I think this is the problem. In short, I could support some sort of Sidious role in the new film but it would have to be done in a way that makes me think..."oh ya, I can see that....ya." Kinda like light speed and light sabers you know...coz they're real.
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  7. Darth-Seldon Force Ghost

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    There is a recurrence of people falling in these movies:
    -Luke falls down Cloud City
    -Lando and Boba Fett fall into the sand pit
    -The Emperor falls down the Death Star II
    -Darth Maul is sliced in half and falls down a hole

    The lightsaber duels in particular have dramatic sets, which at least in TPM, TESB and ROTJ feature giant holes that characters fall into. He fell, he blew up. It was a fitting end to Palpatine's story. He was able to manipulate everything else, but he could not control that father/son relationship. It would be such a cop-out to bring him back as the villain. His story is over.
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  8. Force Smuggler Force Ghost

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    Its Star Wars! You can't count anything out!
  9. LANDO_ROCKS Force Ghost

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    When the major bad guy dies (conveniently) off screen you have to wonder.....anyone got a good reason why Vader didn't just chop him in half?
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  10. robo_obi Force Ghost

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    don't forget the death star exploded....so...even if he survived the fall, I don't see him surviving the ensuing battle station destroying explosion and vacuum of space...

    that said there's no reason we couldn't see some force ghost stuff with him....i'd rather see someone new though...
  11. Force Smuggler Force Ghost

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    How old is Ian? Don't remember his last name?
    His spirit could have survived. It did in the EU supposedly.
  12. Force Smuggler Force Ghost

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    We can also make the case that Boba Fett can come back as well.
  13. Darth kRud Jedi Grand Master

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    Well, Yoda and Luke did the whole radio or force call to buddies with a ship to pick them up, or this happened:
  14. Seagoat Force Ghost

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    Maybe that big blue flash thing was some kind of Force teleportation power... it would be kind of a cop-out, especially considering the movie;s been out for 30 years now...
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  15. Count Yubnub Force Ghost

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  16. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Sweet. Jesus. Just no.

    Let dead characters lie. You hear that, Episode VII writers? Be creative and come up with a new villain instead of resurrecting an old one from impossible odds.

    To TCW writers you do not listen.
  17. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    That flash actually signified that he time travelled.

    Unfortunately, he travelled to about 7 seconds earlier.
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  18. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Don't give JJ Abrams any ideas.
  19. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    Too late. I texted him with all of my ideas.
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  20. Darth kRud Jedi Grand Master

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    I have a Darth Plagueis fetish. Just went to Vegas and bet some big booku on him being the evil bad man. Plagueis or bust! FTW!
  21. Darth kRud Jedi Grand Master

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    He was cloned in that flash and his clones time traveled into every future Star Wars movie ever made.
  22. StarWarsFan91 Force Ghost

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    He died, then later died again for good. He isn't coming back again.
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  23. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Now I've got to stay awake a little longer just to make sure that image doesn't give me nightmares. :p
  24. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    Actually, he activated the auto-pilot, so when Alfred is at the café, he sees...

    Oh wait...
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  25. Darth kRud Jedi Grand Master

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    It's like "Being John Malkovich" when he entered his own head and everyone was Malkovich. Palpatine Palpatine Palpatine?
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