Discussion Is the Emperor really dead?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Spoilers Allowed' started by LANDO_ROCKS, Jan 31, 2013.

  1. Lando's Little Maneuver Jedi Master

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  2. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    IT'S THE EMPEROR! HE MADE IT TO MODERN DAY! AAAAAAA
  3. HL&S Magistrate Emeritus

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    It's funny, if no other sagas existed or the EU never happened, the Emperor not being dead would be a much more accepted theory.

    1) We were introduced to the possibility of using the dark side to cheat death.
    2) The Emperor did not give off one signal that he planned on giving up the throne soon in ROTJ. No need to replace Vader if you're gonna be dead in the next decade.
    3) He did appear to have exploded into dark side energy. Not many characters do that upon falling down a tower.

    But a great number of the fan base have been exposed to years of the cloned Emperor in the EU. We've read or seen Lord Voldemort and his cheating death and reappearing some 10 years later. It's hard to imagine how the Emperor could still be a force to be reckoned with in these final three Skywalker saga installments in some new or original fashion that would make sense with what has been established.

    Maybe it is just as simple as he can cheat death and in order for us to have three more entries to this particular story, we're going to have to accept that. Or maybe he is dead and they plan on making a new villain at the 11th hour? We'll see.
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  4. LANDO_ROCKS Force Ghost

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    Hey Hook, it's been a long time!

    I think the majority of fans would accept it, they wouldn't have read the EU and been exposed to a clone etc.

    Anyway, just an interesting thought.
  5. LawJedi Force Ghost

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    @HookLineAndSinker, if we're working from the OT, maybe. But so much of the 6 movie saga is based on ending this jerk.

    Frankly, Palpatine ( ;)) 2.0 just doesn't sound that compelling, and doesn't have any of the inherent mystery that Voldemort had in the HP saga.
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  6. Count Yubnub Force Ghost

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    Yeah... let's recall the story arc that spans all six movies: In TPM, Anakin is prophesied to bring balance to the Force and destroy the Sith, which he does at the end of ROTJ. I doubt that Lucas will destroy that story arc just for the sake of bringing a villain back.

    Unless Anakin will be brought back as well, and ghost Anakin destroy ghost Palpatine? Boy that sounds hokey.
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  7. Count Yubnub Force Ghost

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    Well played. :D
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  8. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Voldemort was disintegrated into a miniscule form by a magic spell that bounced back on him. He wasn't really dead, he just lost power.

    The Emperor coming back would be like J.K. Rowling making a Harry Potter 8 taking place at the time of the Deathly Hallows epilogue, and having Harry's scar suddenly start hurting again because he's been resurrected. That would be lame.
  9. Legolas Skywalker Force Ghost

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    Your Emperor is dead son, accept it
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  10. serso Force Ghost

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    "He tought his apprentice everything he knew and then his apprentice killed him in his sleep"

    So what if Palpatine did know how to cheat death? It would still be a cheap way but not impossible ;-)
  11. Iron_lord Chosen One

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    When Anakin asks about it, after Mace is dead in RoTS, Palpatine says "That power only one has achieved, but if we work together, I know we can discover the secret"

    Suggesting he lied about the apprentice learning everything Plagueis knew.
  12. TtheForceHurts Force Ghost

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    That blue flash was actually him entering hyperspace...
    I really love that Robot Chicken Episode, there he ended up on the windshield of the Falcon and thereby escaped the explosion only to be frozen stiff in space (naked LOL).
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  13. THE PortmanLuvva Jedi Grand Master

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    I think even if the emperor survives to episode 7, (which he won't), everyones gonna want to know how he survived and i don't think the emperor is the kinda guy to rabbit on about how.
    [Emperor voice]
    "Yeh,you shoulda seen it, Vader was all like, i'm good again and throws me into the pit, shaft, big hole? I.., im not so good with building regs, anyway then i remember the rope i left there for when i like to kill time abseiling. I grabbed on, got to the bottom, lit some fireworks to make those losers think i exploded and boom, escaped outta there on my trusty space scooter. I musta looked like a badass, yeh ahhhh..... you shoulda been there."

    "Anyway, now witness the full power........."
  14. Palpatine2016 Force Ghost

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    This is such a good post.
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  15. GlueParkEnigma Jedi Master

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    The new villain may be (re)born of the force too


    Live, Love, Learn & Laugh
  16. Vespasian Jedi Grand Master

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    Don't forget about Darth Maul in The Clone Wars! Or his broher!

    Yeah. Palpatine maybe had an evil brother. Valvatine.
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  17. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    Or that it's not so much about what you know - Palpatine clearly understands the "main idea" - but about how much time you're able ( or willing ) to spend as a mad scientist recluse experimenting to get the technique right.
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  18. Vale Man Jedi Knight

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    I most certainly hope he's done and dusted. I for one am looking forward to some originality.
  19. Vale Man Jedi Knight

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    I for one, hope and expect they will take no inspiration from the kiddies cartoon show.
  20. Barra_Jedi Force Ghost

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  21. Krueger Chosen One

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    I hope so. New villain please.
  22. boomx2sjk Jedi Grand Master

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    Wouldn't have mattered. Obi-Wan cut Maul in half...:D
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  23. Darth_Articulate Force Ghost

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    No, the emperor is not really dead. He lives on in all our hearts.
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  24. Darth Dru Jedi Padawan

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    The Emperor (aka Darth Sidious) is physically dead and gone. He will not be in the ST as an active living character in the story, but there is a possibility he will appear in flash-back scenes, or possibly in spirit-form similar to the way Obi-Wan and Yoda appeared in the OT.
  25. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    Palpatine's evil cousin Frankentine will come for revenge against Luke.
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