I understand what you're saying. I agree to some extent, but my point was that religion is by it's nature based on holy scriptures and without these scriptures, can we really call them by their name (Islam, Christianity, Judaism)? When someone moves away from the scriptures and deny their credibility, then is that person really a christian or a muslim; most muslims and christians would answere no on that question. So when we're talking about religion we have to take into account the very core of these systems, the scriptures; and the scriptures are in conflict with science and reason. So when we ask if religion and science is in conflict then we can't leave the scriptures out of the picture, since billions of people base their entire lives on them.