This is a very intresting debate between all of you. I would just like to add a little snippet of information for all of you guys benifit. Once you are ordained a priest you cannot be removed from the priesthood unless you so choose. You can be defrocked, which basicly keeps you from active ministry. However, you cannot be removed from the priesthood. The reason being that the priesthood is a sacrament and sacraments are permanent unless the celebrant cancles out such partcipation. If a priest wishes to be "laicized" meaning he is removed from his vows and his priesthood, it can only happen if he so asks for it. If he does not he is a priest for ever in the line of Melchiezadek (as the saying goes). The same goes for a Bishop (with reference to Archbishop Bernard Cardinal Law). Not even the Pope has the authority to "fire" a Bishop or Archbishop (btw: Archbishop is a ceremonial title and is not any higher in power than a Bishop) The Holy Father can reassign them, but cannot "fire" them. So Archbishop Cardinal Law cannot be fired he must ask for resignation, if he does not the Boston Archdiocese still has to look up to Archbishop Cardinal Law.