Earlier I saw a post in a different section where the author offhandedly mentioned how destiny is an important concept in Star Wars. It is, but what are the films really saying about it? In the Classic Trilogy, it always seemed to me that destiny in a strong sense was something the films argued against. When Vader says 'it is your destiny' or the like, or the Emperor makes similar remarks, they seem to be proven incorrect, or at least narrow-minded, by later events. Yoda says, "always in motion is the future." The Emperor forsees Luke destroying him; this doesn't happen. Vader's and the Emperor's overconfidence lead them to destruction in this respect. Even Ben seems rigid in his notions of what 'must' happen in the future, and when it does happen, it's different than he appears to have expected. It goes on and on. In the prequels, the notions of a prophecy and a Chosen One are added to the mythos. Both of these concepts seem to have been in GL's mind since the Classic era, but they weren't in the films until TPM. A prophecy could turn out to be wrong (or even if it's correct, it could be "misread," as Yoda says), and we don't know exactly what being a Chosen One could mean, or if there could be more than one (notes from the development of ESB might mean that there could). The way the films deal with these concepts includes another expectations reversal ("It was said you would destroy the Sith, not join them!") but that also means that Vader's redemption in ROTJ - which when viewed from a period perspective (or from Vader's point of view) was a surprise - was actually a fulfillment of destiny... possibly the first time (?) in the saga when something that is predicted to happen in this way actually does. Lucas also has been quoted talking about fate and destiny, saying something to the effect that there exists for each person a destiny, but that the person can choose to follow it or not. I'm not sure how much sense that makes to me, but the sense it makes depends on the definitions of the words, too. So what are the films saying about destiny? Does what the OT says about destiny differ from what the PT says? Does the saga hang together with respect to this concept?