ST It was the day the Stormtroopers rebelled.

What was Han's destiny..?

 

Falling in love with Leia I suppose? He really didn't have one.

I will remind you back in the 80s Harrison wanted to be killed off because he didn't see the purpose for Han to be in the story any further.

 

All a destiny is is a destination.

Han's destiny was to fall in love with Leia, yes. It was also to go from scoundrel to rebel hero. It was also to die at his son's hand, etc.

According to John, Finn "doesn't have his destiny spoken of in a distant prophecy", and that's all we know about it at this point. I'm hoping for something less predictable than: Finn assists the Resistance and then settles down with a nice girl to sire the next generation of Star Wars characters.

 

Absolutely, but I have this uneasy feeling that's exactly what's going to happen though.

It's nice that Finn goes on missions for the Resistance in VIII, but what exactly is his purpose? They have to deeply explore his stormtrooper life if his story is going to be engaging and compelling.

 

Sooooo what destiny awakened? Do you have an answer?

 

That's really going to depend on how KK, RJ, et al. view the character.

If Finn's primary purpose in the franchise is to provide humor and give Rey someone to care about then he may just have funny little adventures of no real import and wind up with a happy ending or be killed off to make Rey cry.

If they view him as an inspirational figure for young fans, the way they view Rey, they may put effort into giving him a journey that's significant and culminates in achievements that truly impress.

They never really talk about Finn or his place in the franchise so it's hard to guess how they view him.

 

Well, apparently he was destined to follow his conscience and defy orders he knew were wrong, even though it could have cost him his life. He was apparently destined to follow that up by selflessly caring for his new friends' well-being, and then destined to help the Resistance destroy SKB. And now we wait to see what's next for him in Episode VIII.

Edit: And this discussion really belongs more in the Finn thread, which is open again now.

 

I like this idea too. I think I've mentioned it before but I wouldn't be surprised if we see Finn reach out to one of his old Stormtrooper buddies with the hopes that maybe they'll help him and Resistance.

 

Just saw this thread now. Never knew it existed. Certainly didn't know it was around since February.

As for Finn starting a stormtrooper revolt, That's the first thing I thought of when I heard the first rumors of him being a turncoat trooper. After seeing TFA, I was pretty much 99.99999% sure that is exactly what Finn's role will be. There was a lot of discussion about how the First Order (back when we discussed actually bringing the Empire back) that it had to decay from the inside. Here you have Finn who turned against them. He mourned a friend. There are now rumors that he will be noticed by an old friend trooper in Episode 8. Certainly there will be hardcore evil troopers, but for sure there will be more who think as Finn did and will want to do as he did.

In AOTC, the clone troopers helped the good guys. But it was a ploy as they turned against the good guys in ROTS and were led by Anakin/Vader.The rightful cycle would be if, once again, the troopers, now who are real people stripped from their families, revel against the very entity they were "programmed" to serve. It's not only a good idea, but, to me, it almost HAS to happen. It gives Finn a HUGE role moving forward.

Finn leads the ground assault Poe leads the air assault Rey leads the Force/Jedi assault all the way to victory. To me, it's all common sense.

How do you do this? Well, I'm not sure what is going to happen in Episode 8, but we can have Finn stranded somewhere with several stormtroopers. They all need to survive and actually work together. Finn convinces them of what they have to do. He ends up leading this squad who recruit others for the cause.

 

The FO are going to have to be defeated in an unexpected way in Episode IX. The Empire's defeat in RotJ was because the rebels teamed up with the locals (the Ewoks), something the Empire never planned on.

An unexpected uprising from within the FO ranks would take everyone off guard. At least for Hux and Snoke.

 

The only way something like this would happen is Finn is force sensitive or he is the baddest mofo in the galaxy who happens to not be force sensitive. No one would follow him unless he is a super bad ass. This is the only way it would work.

 

Exactly, they really need to do something different. They got off to a terrible start with TFA as far as originality goes.

 

This honestly makes no sense whatsoever. What does being a badass have to do with helping fellow troopers turn their life around like Finn did?

 

Explain to me how and why soldiers trained from birth would believe Finn that they would be capable of taking out on an army. What could he bring to the table that could make them change their minds and want to switch sides?

 

It's too bad they cut out the part where Hux is shooting his own fighters out of the sky as long as he shot down a good number of resistance x-wings.

Showing the storm troopers that they're nothing but meat shields to Hux, would be a could way to start an uprising.

 

An uprising is not that easy. Even if there is an uprising it still has to be organized with a leader. Blind rage doesn't last for long, so there has to be something else that's sustainable. Unless Finn is going to be the Martin Luther King of Star Wars he's not going to win them over with a speech. Being that he's on the outside there's no way he could give one anyway.
Even with this storm trooper rebellion idea there is no way it's going to work unless Finn is a bad ass.

 

They know they were stolen from their families as babies. They know Finn escaped on his own and made it out alive. If they're having second thoughts about continuing to fight for the FO, why wouldn't they listen to Finn and revolt? He's the perfect example of someone who turned their life around against the FO and lived to talk about it.

It's not as difficult a storyline as you're trying to make it out to be.

 

Even if they know they were taken from their families, that's not enough to start a rebellion. What you're asking Finn to ask of these Stormtroopers is a suicide mission. What chance of success would they have? The Resistance is just a small group. Even if the FO constantly kept a boot on the neck of their stormtroopers no one joins the weaker side.

 

How is it a suicide mission if Finn is living proof that you can escape the FO and still live another day?

If Finn felt it was morally right to quit the FO, why can't the other troopers follow his lead?

 

A good human with pure conscience that fights for what he thinks to be right, even when he is an obvious inferior position (meaning non FS, not as strong as Kylo, etc.)
You do not need to be FS to be great. There was never a need for e.g. Han or Chewie to be FS.

 

When we say Finn's destiny, we're not saying describe how Finn is.

What we're saying is what position will Finn be in by the ending of Episode IX.

 

One person gettting out due to circumstances lining up doesn't make a movement. If you expect this movement to be successful then what are your real plans besides emotions and a feeling? Many slave rebellions were eventually wiped out due to uncertainty, lack of planning, or no military might to sustain it.

All you are talking about are feelings. Give me a plan.

Jesus was good and he was eventually killed. A military strategy based on just being good is laughable.
The FO could have their boot on my momma's neck and unless you have a sound military strategy that could actually work, then I am not joining your movement.

 

I'm sure the writer's can come up with a military strategy.

You have to remember that the troopers ARE the FO military. How is Hux going to be able to defeat his own men AND the Resistance at the same time?