One of my problems was I saw it with three women. They didn't refresh their memory with Matrix I before we went. So they were lost. I've seen Matrix many times and I was lost quite a bit too tho. But after the movie there was really nobody to talk to about it. Too many damn women. OK. But at the end he said that he had been there 6 times before... and the entire room was filled with screens of him saying diff. things during these 6 other encouters. How can the same exact person have been there 6 times and not know it. Maybe he never escaped the Matrix till the 6th/7th or last time which is the first movie?? Maybe 6 other times he took the other pill and returned to la-la-land. And they started the whole process all over again. BUT the Matrix would of had to played a game on him making him think he escaped and stuff. Kinda like a weird Star Trek holodeck episode. You never know what is real or not real. BUT this explanation just raises even more questions. I remember that. In the first one they talked about how he wasn't the first, and how he was actually the least impressive of the lot or something. They really boosted his confidence. So what happened to him? the first? He was not killed but just caught by the machines and put back into the Matrix, and for what purpose? to study or something? So you're saying... there were 6 other Neo's, and they chose to allow Zion to be destroyed. And it literally physically got destroyed 6 times and some how they got 1/4 million more people out and re-built Zion with all that technology... 7 more times?? This doesn't explain why Morph is so convinced of Neo. Where does he get his info? The Oracle nor anybody else it seems believes in him. How could the Matrix be destroyed without killing all the humans anyway? They could have so many self-destructs it would be impossible to win... even if they could beat the machines in a war... IF they could. THIS is what I thought Reloaded was all about.. from the inside they could shut-down all the machines b/c physically not only could they not win but they machines would just kill everybody. As far as CG goes... I don't get it. I think it's all great. I think some people who like to analyze cgi are being too picky even for their own ability to pick out cgi. There's nothing that bad in this film. I think we're being a little to nitpicky. I guess we all practice being nitpicky in this forum all the time with one another that we've gotten too good at it.. or at least we think we're good at it.