Jacen Solo (DJ spoilers maybe some SbS too)

Ok. Here comes the DJ spoiler. If you dont want to see it leave now.


















Ok thats enough warning. In DJ the jedi feel a great pain from Jacen that almost everyone, Leia the exception, thinks that he is dead. Does anyone actually think that he died? I personally dont.

 

Well, considering he's the main character of Traitor...

 

Ok so I'm not as up to date as I should be on the future books.

 

Um, no. They won't kill Jacen, at least not yet (and I personally hope they never do, considering that he is my favorite character). There must be some reason for him to feel dead to the other characters in the book, though. Do you think maybe he has to go into a trance or something to protect himself? I am also surprised that it would be Leia who would think he is not dead; isn't Jania supposed to have the best connection with Jacen? I guess we'll just have to wait and find out....

 

Jaina's not feeling a whole lot of anyone...since she fell to the darkside, she's gone a little force numb in some instances.....she didn't even feel the supposed Jacen death thing...all of the others did...

 

there's a good chance that he's turned vong, by way of a shaper (like Tahiri, for a while). And that's why he isn't felt by the others; because vong are absent in the force.

 

He didn't die, I have a theory that Solo/Skywalkers in the NJO only die in hardbacks. Although there does have to be a reason they felt him, and Leia going into denial is weird because she frieked out in SbS, so why not now?

 

No, Jacen is not dead. They wouldn't kill two Solo kids.

 

No, Jacen is not dead. They wouldn't kill two Solo kids.

 

Heh, you're evil IAmTheDarkSide

If they felt something painful through the Force though, I assume something bad happened to him...

 

I don't think he's dead yet (as of DJ). Here's why:

1) Jacen is a major character and his death would be a major event. They wouldn't have it happen 'off-camera' with people just discussing it, they would show it.
2) Jacen is the closest any Jedi has come to the mystery of Vergere and now he is closest by proximity. That's not an accident.
3) The Vong want both Jacen and Jaina to fight in ritual combat to the death. I believe they are still trying to capture Jaina as of Dark Journey.
4) They have killed of two 'members of the Solo family' in a sense: Chewbacca and Anakin. The first was killed in the beginning of the series, the second in the middle. If they do kill another Solo, I think that it will be more spaced out unless it's another 'extended family' thing like Chewbacca, perhaps Lando or someone like that.
5) Jacen is the only Jedi who is shown as consistently expressing conservative viewpoints, which are needed as a counterpoint to more extreme viewpoints like Kyp's and now Jaina's.
6) A mother would know....

 

Yes, he is dead.


In a certain way...





[whistling]Tahiri[/whistling]

 

I did not get that Xizor...

 

I think I'm starting to get some of what he's hinting at....

Possible spoilers going up to Traitor
























I just read in the Traitor speculation thread that Dark Journey, Enemy Lines and Traitor all take place at the same time. This was new information to me.

It totally kills reason #1 of why I didn't think that Jacen was dead - an 'off-camera' death. It is speculated that Traitor deals with Vergere and Jacen on Coruscant. If everything takes place at the same time, then the Jedi could be feeling his death which takes place in Traitor.

It also nixes reason #2, as he will no doubt be with Vergere long enough for us to learn what's going on with her in Traitor.

Reason #3, the twin combat to the death, may not happen when Jaina escapes the Vong's clutches and Tsavong Lah has to admit his failure in providing a sacrifice to the gods.

At the end of SBS, Vergere gives Jacen her healing tears after indicating that he was going to experience deep and meaningful pain in the near future. These tears could possibly allow him to survive his 'death', which is why Leia thinks he isn't dead but we'll see how things work out.

Anyway, all of this pretty much refutes my reasons as to why he can't be dead. However, I am unsure of the Tahiri connection PrinceXizor alludes to. Perhaps this has something to do with that important thing Ikrit believed Tahiri and Anakin would do (although for Anakin's part in may be in spirit - literally or figuratively.) Suppose Jacen is meant to bring a new balance to the Force or save the day in the Vong conflict, but he can only do this if Tahiri revives him, but she can only do that if Anakin had rescued her in EOV. It's possible. Anakin's rescue of Tahiri was still in the future at the time of Ikrit's death. He said that they had a destiny to fulfill, he never said they'd do it side by side so his vision could be that Anakin rescued Tahiri, and Tahiri rescues Jacen, who plays an important role.

 

Hehe, seems I opened some sort of Pandora's box...

I think I won't explain what I meant and see if someone can discover what I meant.

And Sinje, that's not what I meant. Sorry.

 

Very interesting speculation, Sinje_Gawa...

 

Um, I think I know what you meant, PrinceXizor. An interesting possibility (if I'm right) but maybe a little bit soap-opera-y.

I'll PM you w/ my theory and see if anybody else read's your mind.

 

Hmm...interesting speculations...we'll see i guess...lol btw this is random question do u guys pronounce Jacen as in JaSon (with an S sound) or JaKen (with a K sound) cuz i've heard both types being said b4

 

[whistling]Tahiri[/whistling]

Oh, I get it... in the scene where Anakin tells Jacen to "kiss Tahiri for him" Denning doesn't write that he puts his hand on Jacen's face and says "Remember," thus transferring his chakra (or spirit, as it were) to Jacen. Thus when Jacen dies, Anakin takes over in Jacen's body when Tahiri restores Anakin's spirit in Jacen's body so she can claim her long awaited kiss from Anakin and Jacen can fulfill Anakin's last request. Although, it's really Anakin fulfilling Anakin's last request.


Whoops, oh yeah, this is Star WARS, not Star Trek III...

 

Sigh

Jacakin Solo? Scary thought. He'd be one confused Jedi...

 

Heh, as if he needed any added confused...

Xizor, what the heck d'ya mean?! ? Tell us now

 

If you read the interview with the guy who wrote the new NJO Sourcebook he said something that caught my attention and in reality could be consider a major spoiler for the rest of the series.




He was talking about the OT time period ANH-ROTJ to be a journey of a monohero, that beinf Luke. He then said the NJO follows anothers monojourney to the resolve of the NJO. If me hypothesis proves correct, what this guy was saying is that Jacen is going to be the eventual hero of the NJO series. In what form I have no idea? I just think that is what he was saying in as basic terms as possible.

 

No, he's not dead, if for the only reason that if they killed him (espically off-screen) they would lose thousands of readers. I mean SW is a space epic. You can't have an epic if every body dies! Also, I for one would like to see Jacen and Jaina fight! <grins evilly> Hey why not? I fought with my sis all the time! Why do they have to have the perfect sibling relationship? And to that effect...GO JAINA!!

 

Hmm...interesting speculations...we'll see i guess...lol btw this is random question do u guys pronounce Jacen as in JaSon (with an S sound) or JaKen (with a K sound) cuz i've heard both types being said b4

his character was supposed to be named 'jason' but it was decided that it was too THIS galaxy so they changed the spelling to 'jacen' coz it looked more GFFA. so i figure it's supposed to be pronounced 'jason'

~NiKe SKyLaRK~

 

He is not dead, I suspect Vergere reveals her identity to Jacen in Traitor which I think is going on during Dark Journey and Enemy Lines and show her hand in Destiny's Way. I suspect the two of them sent a shockwave thruogh the Force to try and convince his friends and family not to come after him....

His mother after experiencing Anakin's death cannot be fooled though...

Come on she is his Mother after all.

He and Jaina will be the main characters of the story from now on I suspect so they wont kill him. Yeah I reckon another of the Solo/Skywalker family will go but not until HC#5 and I think it will be Mara not Jacen