You've got a differnent view than me. Fans hate Caedus; fans hate the 'whiny' Jacen in the early books of NJO; fans hate Jacen for leaving; fans hate Jacen for living when Anakin didn't; fans hate Jacen for 'flow-walking', fans hate Jacen in the Swarm War....what points of his character DO fans like? The jokester? That character was unsustainable; nobody plays the fool forever, people grow up. What irks me the most is what they did to him later. I wanted to yell at everyone, 'See, you CAN question what life means and still be a hero.' They took that away; they couldn't stand a 'liberal' hero, so they killed him. Thanks for nothing.