Cheers Joe, I understand the personal freinds thing. Made that mistake once before and work became alot harder with a few people thinking they didn't have to listen to me. And I do ask his advice, but I still get the impression he is put out about me being in charge and younger. But as I say, he was offered the job and said no. So it's tough ****. I think I will follow your advice, try yo make him feel needed, make it clear who is boss but be a nice boss if I can. And as for being 'one of the guys' I don't want to be. I want to move through the ranks pretty quickly if I can, no time to stop and chat with the guys. Know what I mean?