Amph James Bond: Now Disc. "Skyfall" Video Blog by Sam Mendes

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  1. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Force Ghost

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    Hedison is my favourite Leiter, although Jack Lord was cool, and I shun anyone who says otherwise.

    Cec Linder was lazy Felix.
    Rik Van Nutter was "Actor's name more compelling than performance" Felix.
    Norman Burton was fat Felix.
    and John Terry is THE WORST ACTOR IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE. At least in The Living Daylights, anyway.

    I like Wright fine, but I don't think the films have ever really captured Fleming's Felix.
  2. Nevermind Jedi Grand Master

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    James Bond Marathon on SyFy today!
  3. Todd the Jedi Mod and Sitcom Dad of SWTV

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    Yeah I watched some of it earlier. But I'm more excited for the LOTR extended cut marathon on Encore.
  4. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    New photos of Craig from the Skyfall set:

    http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=84571

    He's got buzzed hair and a light stubble on his chin. I think Craig looks best when his hair is slightly longer, as in Munich and in the early press meetings for Casino Royale in 2005... but I must say he looks quite distinguished in these shots, and very 007.

    Also, Q is in Skyfall. And a very young one at that!

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/...s-bond-skyfall

    I am curious as to whether they'll name this baby-faced character "Major Boothroyd".
  5. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    I hope he has the wit of Llewelyn's Q. It's good that the character will appear, that means having gadgets is more likely.
  6. Dubya_Scott Force Ghost

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    Nobody will be better than Desmond Llewelyn.

    Nobody.
  7. Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece

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    I'm looking at those pictures of Craig and I'm thinking, were we really skeptical of this guy as Bond at one point? Seems unbelievable now.

    As for Q, I'm up for a little Boothroyd action, but please no ghetto blasters that transform into missile launchers just yet please.
  8. JohnWesleyDowney Force Ghost

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    Strictly speaking, I don't think of James Bond as sci-fi.
  9. DarthBoba Manager Emeritus

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    I don't either, but a fair amount of syfy programming edges more towards horror (IMO, anyway) than science fiction. So thrillers are okay, I guess. :p

    Plus a fair number of the Bond films do have impossible technology.
  10. soitscometothis Force Ghost

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    I think one advantage that Craig has is that, having never really looked young and glamorous, his aging gives him an increasing look of experience and authority, rather than appearing like an aging pretty-boy. It kind of makes me want to see him carry on in the role, and actually have the character act his age for once.
  11. Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece

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    I'd love to see a movie about an aging Bond. It's one of the reasons I like Never Say Never Again despite its obvious flaws; it at least addresses the issue of James Bond past his prime, which I think is a great hook for a movie.
  12. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Force Ghost

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    There are subtle tweaks to Bond's character in Moore's 80s films, which give him a bit more a paternal streak... but then he still ends up bedding everyone anyway.
  13. Havac Some Guy Who Moderates Lit

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    Craig looks ridiculously badass there . . . but he doesn't look particularly Bondish. I hope the scruff is just for a scene or two.
  14. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    Clarifying point here: Moore's 007 strictly avoids bedding young skating star Bibi Dahl in FYEO; in fact he talks her out of it after she, naked in his bed, surprises him as he enters his room.

    So, not "everyone". But he does bed the idiotic-yet-still-sexy Tanya Roberts. I can't remember if he beds the sleek-but-not-at-all-sexy Grace Jones in AVTAK.
  15. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    I agree here, but it's too early to do that with Craig IMO. The man is only 42. Connery was over 50 when NSNA was filmed. Brosnan was essentially replaced because he had reached that "magic age", though it would have been fun, I think, to see him do an "aging Bond" picture. Moore had at least two of those. :D
  16. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    I hope Rogue1-and-a-half won't mind if I re-post his scintillating mini-reviews of the trailers for DAF and LALD, two of the three worst 007 films in the series' history (the third being TMWTGG)-- made all the worse so because they were released back-to-back:

    I blame Guy Hamilton. Somehow he struck gold (heh) on his first outing in the franchise, but his subsequent three Bond films got worse with each installment. Point taken about the girls in DAF, though: amidst the ho-hum smuggling story and the dull domestic (ie, American) setting, Lana Wood and Jill St. John are the only real reasons to sit through that movie. Even Connery is lethargic, fleshy and unlikable.

    (Let me just say at this point, thank God Hamilton did not wind up directing Superman, as he was hired to do. Only a series of bizarre flukes -- Marlon Brando found out he couldn't film in Italy because of a warrant out for his arrest, a sexual obscenity charge from Last Tango in Paris; production moved to England in late-1976, but Hamilton could not join because he was a tax exile -- kept that certain disaster from occurring!)

    It gets worse with LALD, even with the new blood on the scene. Part of the problem is that the younger, light-hearted and more refined Moore is seemingly trying to portray the older, darker and rougher version of the character created (for the screen) by Connery and Terence Young. It doesn't work; Moore is clearly struggling to be something he's not, and he wouldn't find his footing in the role until TSWLM (1975), after the producers realized (finally!) what a hack Hamilton was and replaced him with Lewis Gilbert.

    Gilbert (who had directed Connery in YOLT) had the notion to return Bond to the more polished, gentlemanly character Fleming had written in the post-Casino Royale novels. For my money, the gambit works, and apart from the low-point of Moonraker (essentially a re-make of TSWLM with a Star-Warsy/Star-Trekky/faux-sci-fi veneer), Moo
  17. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Force Ghost

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    She beds him!

    It's a traumatic experience.
  18. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    Gaaah. I never understood the appeal of that woman. She has an interesting face, lovely skin... and the body of a male Olympic runner. To each their own of course, but... Gaaah.
  19. Ramza JC Head Admin and RPF Manager

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    What. Methinks you're giving the Brosnan era too much credit.
  20. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Force Ghost

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    Yeah, comfortably. DAF and TMWTGG are horrid, but at least they've got a bit of quirk and character.

    Brosnan's triumvirate of crap, TND, TWINE, and DAD, is far more offensive. They're soulless, ineptly made machines of films that have little to no resemblance to Fleming. For all their oddness, at least the Tom Mankiewicz/Guy Hamilton trilogy at least looked back to Fleming's sense of oddball black humour from time to time.

    As for LALD, two words to sum up why it is actually secretly awesome: Yaphet. Kotto.
  21. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    That villain from Octopussy does the same animal eye eating thing in Swamp Thing. The space scenes in Moonraker suck.
  22. Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece

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    Oh, awesome, Merlin did a cross thread thing! Seriously, you guys should all go check out the vintage trailers JohnWesley's posting in the Trailer Park thread.

    I think I could comfortably agree with Merlin's assertion that DAF and LALD are two of the three worst Bond films; I have mercy on TMWTGG because of Christopher Lee. Yes, nothing else in the film works at all - there's the return of the humungously annoying J.W. Pepper from LALD; there's Britt Ekland who is supposed to be a spy, but is probably the single stupidest Bond girl in the entire franchise (high points for the moment when she is 'surreptitiously' following Nick Nack while clad in a bikini (?) and then allows herself to get locked into a car trunk by him; well done, milady, well done); there's Tatoo from Fantasy Island as a villain (!). But Lee is a great villain and when he's on screen, the movie actually takes fire; the scene of he and Bond talking at the boxing (I think) match over Maud Adams' dead body is probably the single best scene from the Roger Moore era. I easily plug Moonraker into that third slot that Merlin gives to TMWTGG; Moonraker is for worse: Michel Lonsdale seems heavily medicated, the best villain since Oddjob gets a subplot dedicated to his love life, the space scenes are poorly done and way too slow . . . and Roger Moore appears in a gondolier hat. Case closed. Moonraker is, in fact, the very worst movie in the series from where I sit.

    As to Brosnan's era . . . TND is pretty lame, but the motorcycle chase with Michelle Yeoh is a great action sequence; I never got around to seeing TWINE (the only Bond film I haven't seen to date); and DAD is unfairly maligned - everything until Cuba is pure gold and, while I'm in the minority, I loved the car battle and the ice wave.
  23. Havac Some Guy Who Moderates Lit

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    It is impossible to unfairly malign DAD. If you are maligning it, it is fair maligning. It's like if a thirteen-year-old wrote a Bond movie, and then it was produced as a SyFy Original Movie. The only way to explain it is if everyone involved suffered massive head injuries. Which is about what the acting looks like, so I'll stick with that as the explanation.

    Moonraker is definitely bottom-three material, though, at least as far as I've seen.
  24. Ramza JC Head Admin and RPF Manager

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    Rogue, I only suggest you watch TWINE if you've got two hours you feel like regretting.:p

    If I had to pick a bottom three, it would probably look something like:
    The World is Not Enough
    Quantum of Solace
    Never Say Never Again (Is this cheating? It might be.)

    I can't stand any of them, at least the Moore films have goofy self-aware camp going for them.
  25. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    007 fanhood is nothing if not democratic! None of us agrees on anything, which is part of what makes discussing the series so much fun. :cool:

    The entire run of Hamilton-directed films is a complete loss, IMO. I don't want to go off another "GF bites!" rant, and be left repeating myself while everyone rushes to its defense, so I'll limit my criticism to the hammy and hugely unlikeable DAF, LALD and MWTGG.

    DAF, apart from the opening scene and the two girls is almost a complete wash. The plot is overly complex and difficult to follow, the tone is campy, the humor largely falls flat, and the performance by the doughy Connery is non-committal, dull. The pre-credits sequence is enjoyable enough, but after the song, the film becomes a lackluster smuggling melodrama. Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd are poorly conceived and acted, the funeral-home sequence is a pale satire of the industry, and Bond?s infiltration of both the criminal underworld and the laboratory operations inside the hotel play like a standard pulp tale, without much in the way of spectacle or excitement. Only the Vegas car chase, with Bond tilting a Ford Mustang over on two wheels to the dismay of the local police force, offers any thrills in this section (though Rogue has justifiably called this "the dumbest scene in any non-Moore Bond film").

    The oil-rig finale is underwhelming and uninspired. The last scene, in which Wint and Kidd are killed trying to kill Bond, is fun, but the story ends unresolved, with Tiffany Case (a passably snappy but underused Bond girl) wondering how the film?s Macguffin ? a diamond-studded laser-gun satellite ? is going to be retrieved from orbit. The answer to that question might have made for an interesting finale, but alas, the film-makers failed to realize this and so ended the movie with the matter unresolved.

    DAF is one of the worst big-budget films ever made, and its poor quality is indefensible.

    TMWTGG is for my money the worst entry in the franchise, which is all the more unfortunate because the villain, Scaramanga, is a fascinating ?shadowy reflection? of James Bond, and is well-played by the magnetic Christopher Lee. However, absurd action sequences (kung fu dumbness and a silly boat chase), illogical plot points (Scaramanga?s gun takes time and effort to assemble the first time we see it done, but the second time it?s put together almost instantaneously without Bond noticing), a deadly dull car chase made all the worse by the puffy, scowling, tobacco-chewing face of the Jar Jar Binks of hick sheriffs, JW Pepper), a dumb blond sidekick (evidently she has a second-grade reading level), and a campy sound effect over the best stunt in the film mar the execution of an otherwise topnotch concept.

    This film begs to be re-made as a gritty thriller starring Daniel Craig as Bond and Gerard Butler as Scaramanga.

    Meanwhile, I disagree that Brosnan's films are "soulless crap". GE is widely regarded as one of the best films in the entire series, and TWINE even with its faults is a sight better than any of Hamilton's ham-fisted, cheeky garbage. Even Pierce's worst offenses, TND and DAD, have something to recommend them. TND at least has Michelle Yeoh, some rollicking kung fu action, and the clumsily-edited, if thrilling, handcuffed-to-a-motorcyle-whilst-outrunning-a-mi