Amph James Bond: Now Disc. "Skyfall" Video Blog by Sam Mendes

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  1. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Force Ghost

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    To stray from the trivial topic of how women should be treated in modern cinema, here's a new super-dooper kewl picture of Daniel Craig as Stubbled James Bond in Skyfall.

    [image=http://www-deadline-com.vimg.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/skyfall__120201100130.jpg]

    Moody!
  2. soitscometothis Force Ghost

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    I don't know why, but that one photo makes me hopeful and excited for the film. Stupid, because a shot of Craig looking unshaven doesn't say anything about the actual finished film, but... yeah, I love the shot. I love that he's carrying the traditional Walther, I love that he looks dangerous rather than manicured, and I hope this is going to be another Bond film where I come out of the cinema knowing that I will be buying the DVD, rather than feeling it was a missed opportunity.
  3. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    Wow, that still is crisp and electrifying. I like the mood that it creates: high-tech espionage with a hint of menace. Between the casting, the little we know of the plot, and the two stills so far released, I'm well on my way to being sold on the excellence of this movie.
  4. Nevermind Jedi Grand Master

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  5. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Grand Master

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    Zaz, I know you're juggling a lot of threads, but...really?:p
  6. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    Hey guys, there's a new photo from Skyfall! I can only hope someone here will post it, or a link to it, or both!

    :p
  7. Dubya_Scott Force Ghost

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    It is a cool picture, but I think Bond should be clean-shaven.
  8. Ramza JC Head Admin and RPF Manager

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    Perhaps they're going to use it to work in another electric razor advertisement, like they did in DAD?:p
  9. Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece

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    I feel like I've said this to you several times before, but, one more time, that is not the reason that people love Gone with the Wind. I mean, for God's sake. You think that we watch and love the movie because we wish we could own blacks again? :oops:

    It's interesting too that so many people hold Dalton up as some sort of more progressive version of the character. He may not have been as openly misogynistic, but he was the coldest and most casually violent Bond since Connery. It's all part of the character. I don't think he needs to be virulently racist or call every woman he meets nasty names. But he has to be a dark character or there's no point. He's a blunt instrument, after all, and always has been. I don't even buy the wish fulfillment thing; I wouldn't want to be him. There's no way the character can or should be sanitized. Glimpses of his humanity, like his melancholy after Felix's wedding or his brokenness at the end of OHMSS, are fantastic. So are glimpses of his malignant side, like the ending to Casino Royale or the cold-blooded drop at the end of Goldeneye.
  10. severian28 Force Ghost

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    Sam Mendes directing. Thats kind of incrdible but it also makes sense with the direction and evolution of Craigs Bond. Tough but vulnerable and conflicted.
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    I'm going to have to rewatch all the Bond films now. I've always seen him as being selfish on a personal level, arrogant, and by no means a nice person, but I've never really seen him at all as being chauvinistic. If Bond were gay, he'd treat men exactly the same way he treats women.
  12. severian28 Force Ghost

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    So i looked up the word and in Websters and Oxfords respectively, chauvinism is defined first as an unnegotiable, militant, and boastful devotion to ones country; fanatic patriotism. Devotion to race or sex is its second definition. Being in service to his country at the level he is, Bond actually fits this definition but in the way i've grown up accustomed to thinking of chauvinism, not really. Sexist, however, fits Mr. Bond to a tee lol, as he does indeed sexualize women first and foremost. Thats what makes the Craig Bond very, very different. And it works well, firstly because Craig is an excellent actor - clearly the best since Connery to play the role, and second because, IMO, his performance marrys up to the early Fleming novels. Or at least in the female relation sense.
  13. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    But that's not the way the word chauvinism is used, though. Dictionary editors are by nature and profession a conservative lot, sometimes hanging on to outmoded denotations well after the public who are actually employing the word have moved on.

    In short, language is fluid and ever-changing. I invite you to find a single usage of chauvinism to allude to patriotism or nationalism in the last 30 years.
  14. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Grand Master

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    Not at all. I didn't say people pine for the ability to own slaves; I said they pine for a time when that was how things worked. The emphasis of the nostalgia is, of course, on the feelings of luxury and chivalry and yada yada, but that's what's so insidious. It's not that they consciously want to own slaves, but that they embrace the nostalgia without caring how completely founded on slavery that world was.

    And I'm not talking about every person who enjoys the film - I mean the many whites (including some in my life) who honestly buy into the film's opening text. But like Birth of a Nation and Triumph of the Will, I can push my conscience to the side and appreciate the pure filmmaking quality of a film like GWTW. More to the point of this thread, I thoroughly enjoy most of the older Bond movies, even if I don't appreciate the casual racism and sexism.

    But here's the big point: no one would dare make a movie like Birth of a Nation or Gone with the Wind today, and with good reason. It's one thing to appreciate an old work of art in spite of its backwards worldview, because "it was a different time" and/or "they didn't know any better", but it's quite another to enjoy watching a brand-new film making clear that its makers STILL don't know any better.


    I completely disagree that his violence is casual - not in the "ha ha I just killed a man and could care less" of his predecessors. Dalton is dead serious. Each act is as Dryden says in the opening of CR, "Made you feel it, did he?" except in the case of Dalton's Bond it doesn't get easier: each kill hurts his soul, which is why he's so cold. I consider that a remarkably progressive take on the violence.

    But even putting aside the violence, the approach to race and gender in Dalton's films is indisputably progressive compared to his predecessors.
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    Looking forward to this. I'm really liking Daniel Craig as Bond so far. =D=
  17. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    First "Skyfall" Video Blog by Director Sam Mendes

    Mendes sounds like a man who knows what he wants -- and that is to make a relevant, timely and artful James Bond movie. Having seen his first three films I'm rather inclined to believe he can deliver.
  18. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Force Ghost

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    He's done five films.

    Can't wait to see some footage from this sucker. There's been a heck of a lot of shooting in the UK, which I'm chuffed about since I've always wanted a Bond film that didn't necessarily jetset arbitrarily (I'm sure he'll still travel, though).

    Also, there's been a lot of shooting with Rory Kinnear. I hope that they actually portray Bill Tanner correctly this time (Bond's best buddy), instead of the strange, almost autistic nothingness of the character in Quantum of Solace
  19. Havac Former Moderator

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    I'd be really interested to see a Bond that plays on the glamor and beauty of London and Britain itself, instead of associating all its fashionability and glamor with foreign locations.
  20. soitscometothis Force Ghost

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    But Bond works for MI6, not MI5. He's supposed to go to foreign countries, it's his job. Though now I think about it, wasn't the book Moonraker set in England?
  21. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    Yes, but I've seen his first three. This feels like the beginning of a beautiful Python sketch.

    Mendes promised China, but checking wiki it doesn't look as though the filming there has occurred. South Africa and India were both considered but abandoned in pre-production.

    As to London, wiki reports:

    Shooting began in and around London,[4][54] with scenes shot in Southwark and Whitehall, the National Gallery,[55] Smithfield meat markets and St Bartholomew's Hospital,[56] Canary Wharf,[57] the Department of Energy and Climate Change,[58] Charing Cross station and the Old Royal Naval College in Greenwich,[59] with residents reporting further filming as taking place in Cadogan Square,[60] Tower Hill,[61] and Parliament Square.[62] The Vauxhall Bridge was closed to traffic for filming the aftermath of an explosion at the MI6 headquarters at Vauxhall Cross. Unlike The World Is Not Enough, which also featured an explosion at the building ? which was filmed at a large-scale replica ? the explosion in Skyfall will be added digitally in post-production.[63] Photos taken by residents in the city's Deptford district revealed the presence of an Aston Martin DB5 on location


    The production also shot "at Royal Ascot, standing in for Shanghai Pudong International Airport", according to an unsourced claim.

    I look forward to Tanner being fleshed out a bit as well. He's still a cardboard cut-out after 50 years.
  22. Merlin_Ambrosius69 Force Ghost

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    Sure, sure. But after 23 films (yes, I'm counting NSNA) of globe-hopping it's reasonable -- and feels right, somehow -- to set part of this film in England, with attendant action set-pieces.

    Of Moonraker, wiki reports:


    Set completely in England, the story has two halves: the first concerns a battle over a game of bridge in London's clubland between Bond and industrialist Sir Hugo Drax, while the second follows Bond's mission to stop Drax from destroying London with a nuclear weapon.

  23. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Force Ghost

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    I... read it the wrong way. In my head.


    I thought Kitchen did a fine job considering he had nothing to work with in GoldenEye