Amph James Cameron's Avatar (The Way of Water + sequels)

I know my record is clear on how much I think the prequels suck, but at least Lucas was trying. There's an authenticity to those films and a personal investment in them that's very clear, no matter what one might think of the execution of the films. Avatar, on the other hand, had 1-dimensional characters and talked down to its audience, dumbing the plot down so much that I was offended as a movie-goer. Absolute tripe, but hey, "it's pretty in 3d" was the entire point of the film, with its very much aging hippie message and its need to show the military in an entirely negative light as if we'd regressed in culture back to the 1700s. Give me the prequels any day over this franchise.

 

That wouldn't make sense. He landed the plane on the river about five years ago. You can't have the passengers on there for 25 years.

 

True, but as he was the face of their group, and he was easily the worst one-note character in the film, it brought the whole thing down in my eyes. But, without it, we'd never have gotten the South Park parody, "Dances With Smurfs," so... I guess there's that!

 

sam worthington must be hoping like hell cameron gets around to doing them because his career has gone down the toilet

 

I have no clue what you're talking about.

 

I think he is talking about the Sully Salsbury Steak guy from New York.

 

that is not nearly enough sequels. i mean underworld has 25 sequels for ****'* sake. jim camron how can you be this damned lazy. i am so disappointed in you.

 

Well, I'm sorry I didn't like one of James Cameron's most overhyped and overrated films since Titanic.

 

My dark opening for Avatar 2 has Pandora largley deforested andTerraformed with human air. The Na'vi reduced to desperate living on the edge of human society, destitute and mocked. Humans might have setbacks, but where there's serious money, we will always come back and win out...

And then that's a low point to dig up from to and annoy the hell out of the "I don't like messages in my movies" crowd.

 

When is Cameron going to get underway on these? Does he have a shooting date?

 

I am all for films with messages, just not messages that beat one upside the head with a Na'vi carbon fiber bow like they are blunt instrument, i.e. the nature vs. technology argument.

 

I like the nature versus tech narratives usually but Avatar was a bit too sappy and just full of stock villains and heroes. Looked tremendous though in 3D in the theater.

 

I'm actually surpised that Cameron is interested in investing so much of his time on sequels rather than new projects. The quality is bound to go down from the original Avatar, and the original was overrated to begin with.

 

while I agree it's weird that Cameron is doing so much Avatar, I'm still stoked for 4 James Cameron movies in 6 years. He (basically) put out 3 movies in the 1990s (basically) just 1 movie in '00s so that's adding up to that output inside of a single run.

 

I will always respect Avatar for being visually stunning and doing a lot to advance filmmaking technology.

 

Cameron hates writing. George Lucas said he also hates writing. Michael Crichton said he hated writing.

 

hmmmm not sure what the plot would be for this, I need to rewatch the first movie but James Cameron is amazing.

 

Well, at some point the Earth will invade with a more direct "let's destroy" attitude. I think much of this next film will be about getting Pandora united and developing technology. I assume there will be a space battle, I just wonder how hard sci-fi Cameron will keep it.

 

I remember him talking about how the first movie only touched on a small part of the planet. There is some other unique civilization underwater or something. Mesa thinking they're in big doodoo.