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[JCC] Habla Espanol?

Discussion in 'Communications' started by farraday, Feb 28, 2005.

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  1. malkieD2

    malkieD2 Ex-Manager and RSA star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Is the two posts made while you're on alone really reason to lock the thread?

    In my opinion, yes. You seem to be the only person who has a problem with my reasoning for closing the thread at the time. Even people who think there should be a Spanish thread agree with my reasoning. Furthermore 3 of the 4 administrators agree with the action that I took at the time.

    If you want to discuss the feasibility of a Spanish thread here then that's fine, but I don't see the point in further discussion a judgement call I made that everyone but you seems to understand.

    (p.s. and you didn't answer my question of how I could effectively moderate a thread in Spanish alone, but PM your solution because as far as I am concerned it it ouside the scope of this thread)
     
  2. farraday

    farraday Jedi Knight star 7

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    The issue isn't effecitively mdoerating a spanish thread alone because normally you're only alone for a few hours at the deadest period of the day. I don't see how that justifies locking any thread you can't immediately understand.

    And it certainly bears discussion because if they do make another spanish language thread you can just lock it again immediately overnight based on the same faulty justification even if it was approved by the other mods.

    Edit

    Before you respond that your justification is adequate lets review your original thread closing response.

    sorry, but this is an english speaking forum, and none of the moderators are fluent enough in other languages to effectively moderate a thread in another language. For all we know you are flaming each other or posting profanity, furthermore, if someone PM'd me to say that someone did post profanity or flame them, how I am to know ? I might ban someone who was completely innocent.


    You're presuming to talk for all the JCC mods, instead of just yourself, as you're claiming now.

    While Ic an see how someone might believe that justification is sufficeient I wonder how many would agree that if there are two posts in spanish while you're the only mod on that you can't read it's justification enough.
     
  3. Darth_Ignant

    Darth_Ignant Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    English is good enough for me, so it's good enough for everyone else.
     
  4. RogueScribner

    RogueScribner Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't think it is wise to rely on any amount of self-moderation. The JCC mod would still have to rely on information he/she cannot easily confirm for him/herself. It's modding through a middle man. It's very hard to make judgment calls like that.

    To rely on Spike to handle the bulk of modship over the thread is ridiculous, even if he is willing. I agree that for any foreign language thread to exist, there should be a consistent mod presence. One mod ain't gonna cut it, no matter how much time he devotes to it. I don't think mods with very basic understandings of a foreign language should count, either. There should be a group of fluent mods willing and able to preside over a foreign language thread to ensure things remain clean for everyone to enjoy.

    As there isn't currently a group of mods to handle such a task, the thread should remain closed.

    I don't think the mods or admin have wronged anyone. I think there's a lot of debating for debating's sake in this thread. I like a good debate, so I enjoyed reading this thread. :)

    L8r
     
  5. DarthIshtar

    DarthIshtar Chosen One star 10

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    If there's an interest in Spanish forum, I'm willing to help out in any way possible. I'm fluent in English and Spanish.
     
  6. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    As a note, all US casinos have rules posted for poker tables stating that you must speak in English at the tables.

    The reason: to prevent collusion.

    It's not too far-fetched to see why we'd want such things here in the non-Spanish speaking fora.
     
  7. DarthIshtar

    DarthIshtar Chosen One star 10

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    Mar 26, 2001
    I've seen multi-lingual efforts get snubbed by exclusive English attitudes and think it not right.
     
  8. PatttyB0123

    PatttyB0123 Former RSA star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I didn't see that thread, but there is my two cents. We need an extra mod in Spanish in the Chile boards, because there is too much to handle there by one mod.

    One is not enough for now. Sincerely things are little out a hand over there.
     
  9. DarthIshtar

    DarthIshtar Chosen One star 10

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    Are we allowed to mod if we're in the US? ;)
     
  10. HawkNC

    HawkNC Former RSA: Oceania star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Patty, that would probably be best suited to FF Comms, where you have already posted.
     
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