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[JCC] Should the YJCC stop being family friendly?

Discussion in 'Communications' started by Lord_Fett, Apr 29, 2004.

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  1. Lord_Fett

    Lord_Fett Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think it should. Or at least create a forum that's not "family friendly" where one can "discuss" more mature themes.
     
  2. jacemathem

    jacemathem Jedi Master star 5

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    Wouldn't such "mature themes" be only made available for adults? And how are you going to prove which users are of age?

    Plus, it's just not the nature of the site to need to discuss adult themes.





    It's a bad idea, I probably will have much more to say later.
     
  3. Darth_Dagsy

    Darth_Dagsy Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The family friendly nature of the JC is something that has been decided by the owners, and simply isnt subject to change.

    If you want mature discussion, the best place to head is to the Senate Floor, where you can have political, religious, sexual discussions, provided that it is done in a mature manner.

    But if you want a forum established for dirty jokes and things like that. Sorry to tell you, that'll never happen. Its the owners decision, and the administration has no input on it at all.
     
  4. jp-30

    jp-30 Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    > Or at least create a forum that's not "family friendly" where one can "discuss" more mature themes.

    You'll find all your online needs [link=http://www.google.com]here[/link]. :)

     
  5. The Bigger Fish

    The Bigger Fish Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The Senate was created as a place for discussion of more mature themes. Almost anything can be discussed sensibly in there if approached in a mature fashion.

    If you want a place to tell dirty jokes, it will never happen in the JCC. Your idea has been raised many times. There are plenty of other boards frequented by JCC members for that purpose. They aren?t hard to find. ;)
     
  6. DarthSapient

    DarthSapient Jedi Youngling star 10

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    I agree with Darth Dagsy on this issue.
     
  7. Jedi_Humaira_Blaine

    Jedi_Humaira_Blaine Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Wouldn't such "mature themes" be only made available for adults? And how are you going to prove which users are of age?

    Precisely. A lot of new users here at the JC are below 18...in WNU I meet a lot of great new people who are in their early teens. Sometimes just 13...

    It isn't fair if the board that is family friendly had this one board where adult topics were being discussed, knowing full well that younger posters would participate.

    You cannot really discourage people below a certain age group to post there.


    Plus topics like that "g-spot" topic are not just "mature topics". It is borderline-as mentioned by the others-and was definitely heading into dangerous territory. :(

    Like the others said...to discuss mature themes in a mature fashion, the Senate is best. :)
    But when the thread is going to cause a controversy, like the above mentioned one, it needs to be watched, and if it gets out of hand,locked.


    There, my 2 cents. ;)

     
  8. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    No.

    Oh wait, you were serious?

    No.
     
  9. GenOochy

    GenOochy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    No, infact it needs a bit of cleaning up, IMO.

    If you want to act immature go someplace else. Dirty jokes are not mature. [face_plain]

     
  10. Jedi_Humaira_Blaine

    Jedi_Humaira_Blaine Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Dirty jokes are not mature

    Agreed, and they shouldn't be in the YJCC either. :) It may be a forum to post "topics other than SW related topics" but that should not extend to dirty jokes.



     
  11. Katya Jade

    Katya Jade Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No, there's no way you can fully protect underage people on the internet. As Dagsy said, the owners insist on it being family friendly so it will continue to be. However, it's not completely Disneyfied. The JCC has some mature topics and joking in there that have been allowed as long as they're not explicit in nature (see the G-spot thread). There's really no need to have a forum for dirty jokes - as jp pointed out there's the rest of the internet for that.
     
  12. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If you want to act immature go someplace else. Dirty jokes are not mature.

    The JCC is not about being "mature". Please go to another site if you're interested in only being among "mature" people. The key is to avoid being immature to the point of inappropriateness.
     
  13. GenOochy

    GenOochy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    //Agrees with the WNU mod

    Sex... Why must everyone talk about sex? I'm with you, anything sexual should be eliminated.
     
  14. royalguard96

    royalguard96 Jedi Knight star 5

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    The JCC is not about being "mature".

    Ain't that the truth...
     
  15. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Sex... Why must everyone talk about sex? I'm with you, anything sexual should be eliminated.

    Why?
     
  16. GenOochy

    GenOochy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Because it's vulgar, against the TOS, wrong...
     
  17. DarthSapient

    DarthSapient Jedi Youngling star 10

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    No it's not always. And vulgar is a subjective term. Comms exists to help to continually redefine and understand those gray areas.
     
  18. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Because it's vulgar, against the TOS, wrong...

    How so?

    Is all sex vulgar? Always against the TOS? Is sex always wrong?

    Maybe be a little more open-minded and realize that a lot of people view it differently.
     
  19. DarthSapient

    DarthSapient Jedi Youngling star 10

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    GenOochy, I would say your view represents one extreme while those who want some sort of porn forum is the other. We can't have either. So we try to define the middle ground and the right and left boundaries.
     
  20. epic

    epic Ex Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    GenOochy evidently thinks his own life is vulgar and wrong. because, guess what, Gen. your parents had SEX. you came out of your mother's VAGINA.

    *GASP*

    *runs in horror*

    etc etc
     
  21. GenOochy

    GenOochy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    *cough*fence walking*cough*

    Is all sex vulgar?

    No, in proper context, between two people.

    Always against the TOS?

    User agrees not to post material that is knowingly false and/or defamatory, misleading, inaccurate.....sexually oriented....threatening, invasive of a person's privacy.

    NOT TO POST Doesn't get any cleaer than that.

    Is sex always wrong?

    Not between a male and female who are MARRIED for the purpose of procreation.


    Maybe be a little more open-minded and realize that a lot of people view it differently.

    Some don't believe murder is wrong, should I be opened minded to them?
     
  22. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    *cough*fence walking*cough*

    Do you mean that having a middle ground opinion is bad?

    No, in proper context, between two people.

    So anything beyond that is vulgar? Which would, of course, include any discussion about it (so that it ties back into this thread).

    NOT TO POST Doesn't get any cleaer than that.

    That's a broad definition, and discussion of sexually-related issues occurs in mature form in the Senate. The owner gave his blessing for that a long time ago (October of 2001).

    Not between a male and female who are MARRIED for the purpose of procreation.

    I quite respect your beliefs. However, it would help a great deal if you would respect other people's beliefs and views, even if you don't agree with them.

    Understanding someone doesn't mean or require agreement.

    Some don't believe murder is wrong, should I be opened minded to them?

    I'd say so.
     
  23. -_-_-_-_-_-

    -_-_-_-_-_- Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    As many have stated above, if you're looking for mature and serious discussion, head over to The Senate.

    If crude humor and innuendo is your bag, then I really never see a forum opening for that around here unless there was a change of ownership. Even then it would be a long shot.
     
  24. Jedi_Humaira_Blaine

    Jedi_Humaira_Blaine Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    GenOochy, I stated that "dirty jokes" shouldn't be in YJCC. They shouldn't be in any forum, actually.

    The topic of sex being discussed in a mature fashion without it being crewd, lewd and just plain vulgar is allowed here at the JC.

    The Senate Hall is one place where I've seen topics of this nature. :)
    But these is always steered away from becoming a thread to make lewd jokes.

    Sex isn't bad. In fact its a good thing.

    I'll admit that talking openly about sex with new people isn't something I am comfortable with.
    I'm also someone who believes in the instituion of marriage because I firmly believe that God created sex for husband and wife. But that's me...and probably a lot of other people here too. But not everyone.

    I cannot lock a thread simply because it's sex related. I usually have to put my belief and idea of "accepted and not" on hold while I do the "right mod thing."

    There's a fine line sometimes between what's accepted and what's not. This is where judgment comes into play. When a mod feels that a poster or thread is crossing that fine line, it's time to step in, steer the thread or posters...and as a last resort lock.
     
  25. GenOochy

    GenOochy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So anything beyond that is vulgar? Which would, of course, include any discussion about it (so that it ties back into this thread).

    I mean the discussion, the act, ect.... I don't consider this something that should be openly talked about.

    I'd say so.

    [face_plain] Wha??? So I should really consider the 9/11 terrorists point of view??
     
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