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Jedi without a robe?

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by ThatWanFromStewjon, Nov 22, 2012.

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  1. ThatWanFromStewjon

    ThatWanFromStewjon Jedi Knight star 4

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    Hi,

    I was just wondering if there was an "in universe" explanation for why Aayla Secura and Ahsoka do not wear the traditional Jedi outfit?

    Cheers.
     
  2. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Force Ghost star 6

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    To my knowledge, which everyone agrees is vast, there is no explanation.
     
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  3. Narutakikun

    Narutakikun Jedi Knight star 4

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    Because for some unimaginable reason, none of the male Jedi ever voiced any objections.
     
  4. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Jedi robes aren't required jedi apparel.
     
  5. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    I was going to say "Because the producers wanted female eye candy" but this works.
     
  6. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I've heard posters here say it's because they're from "warm planets" and they need to dress appropriately for that environment.

    To which I say: bah, humbug! Oops - wrong holiday. Happy Thanksgiving to my fellow Americans.
     
  7. QuangoFett

    QuangoFett Jedi Master star 4

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    Ahsoka and Aayla are the most extreme examples because their outfits are skimpy to the point where it seems like the Council is allowing them solely to test the libidos of the heterosexual male, lesbian and bisexual Jedi population to the very limit and see who falls foul of the "no attachments" rule.

    However, many of the named female Jedi don't wear the traditional robes. Shaak Ti wears a dress and a cloak. Luminara Unduli and Barriss Offee wear unique Mirialan robes and headdresses. The female Twi'lek Jedi often seen in the background of TCW's Temple scenes before she gets killed by Maul and Savage in the newsreel of Revival also wears robes like Barriss'.

    Only the human or near-human female Jedi wear traditional robes. Alien women have no choice but to wear whatever their culture dictates, apparently. You don't find very many male Jedi of any species wearing robes that are non-traditional beyond a unique colour scheme and a bit of leather. There was a male human Jedi in one of the Republic comics who exposed his massive arms (and suffered for this when facing chemical weapons in a swamp), but his robes were otherwise traditional in design. At the younger end of the spectrum, we see Zatt (and, of course, Gungi) wearing non-traditional robes, but that's it.
     
  8. ThatWanFromStewjon

    ThatWanFromStewjon Jedi Knight star 4

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    I know the real reason, I was just wondering if there is a fictional one ;)
     
  9. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It kinda seems to me like Jedi don't really have a dress code, some wear the traditional uniforms and some don't. Kinda reminds me of FMA where the State Alchemists other than Coronal Mustang and Major Armstrong who actually rank up in the Amestrian Military seem to view wearing a military uniform as optional despite being 'dogs of the military'.
     
  10. ThatWanFromStewjon

    ThatWanFromStewjon Jedi Knight star 4

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    The Financial Management Association???:confused:
     
  11. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  12. Narutakikun

    Narutakikun Jedi Knight star 4

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    In all seriousness, Jedi are supposed to wear clothing that's 1) humble and 2) inconspicuous. For all we know, by the standards of their native cultures, that could be exactly what Aayla and Ahsoka are doing.

    Remember that standards for these things are very culturally-based. Clothing that, in America in 2012, we would consider completely normal on women includes stuff that would have been considered scandalous in 1880, and is considered shameful in some parts of the world even now. And one view or the other is not necessarily objectively right or wrong - they're just different views.

    Here's a political cartoon I saw a while ago that touches on that idea:
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    Both arguments have some validity to them. Both are correct, from a certain point of view. And we all know about how dependent the truths we cling to are on our own point of view.

    Anyhow, as a multiculturally tolerant organization, it seems the Jedi as an organization simply decided not to take sides in this debate. Whether you wear something closer to that bikini (Aayla, Ahsoka), or something closer to that burqa (Luminara, Barriss), as long as you can swing a lightsaber, it's fine either way.
     
  13. rumblewagon

    rumblewagon Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    What's the "traditional Jedi outfit"?

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  14. QuangoFett

    QuangoFett Jedi Master star 4

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    Ahsoka has the cloak, but not the robes beneath.

    Compare and contrast:

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  15. Darth_Kiryan

    Darth_Kiryan Jedi Master star 4

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    why does Anakin wear black instead of the tradition brown?
     
  16. rumblewagon

    rumblewagon Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'd say the cloak = a robe; and the rest of Adi Gallia's outfit is more similar to a Jiu Jitsu Gi.
     
  17. Narutakikun

    Narutakikun Jedi Knight star 4

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    Also, "chicken and egg" question: Did Ahsoka's tights inspire Homura's, or was it the other way around?

    [​IMG]
     
  18. Hero of Tukayyid

    Hero of Tukayyid Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think they have a design team somewere on the Far-East, so...
     
  19. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I do tend to see some animu infliences in TCW from time to time.
     
  20. Hero of Tukayyid

    Hero of Tukayyid Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Like what else?
     
  21. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Ahsoka's reverse grip (yeah there is Starkiller but whatever. Filoni said he was a Princess Mononoke fan) . The markings on Ahsoka's face. She kinda resembles a magic girl doesn't she? Then there was the Kage Warriors. Tell me Krismo didn't look like bit like a bishonen anime dude?
     
  22. Hero of Tukayyid

    Hero of Tukayyid Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Krismo looked like a night elf. What is a bishonen?
     
  23. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    A beautiful looking boy and not a bad thing at all.
     
  24. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Ahsoka wearing a Jedi robe is awkward
     
  25. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Does look like the hood would be hard to get over her horns doesn't it?
     
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