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JCC JediWarrior And Connemara Missing In Afghanistan (Update: What a ****show.)

Discussion in 'Community' started by Fire_Ice_Death, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    If she hasn't got PTSD I'd be surprised, and PTSD is all kinds of permanent damage.
     
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  2. Jacques who

    Jacques who Jedi Knight star 3

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    Extensive therapy and reintegration support is always ALWAYS offered and encouraged in situations such as this but can be turned down. And people do turn it down. It's US & Canadian policy.

    I used to work in a tangential field that dealt with these issues.


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  3. epic

    epic Ex Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    buuuut why isn't she speaking to the media?!?!
     
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  4. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    That's the neckbeard's job
     
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  5. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Advice from her guidance counsellor, Bob Fireicedeath, not to speak to anyone but him, her true soul mate?

    (That's allowable right JTS?)
     
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  6. Rylo Ken

    Rylo Ken Force Ghost star 7

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    you're treading on thin ice, but SuperWatto will allow it this time

    I don't know Caitlan, but having said nothing to the media since her return, she also has said nothing that makes her look like an idiot or a psychopath or some kind of self-aggrandizing shoveler of bull****, which seems like an advantage in the long run.
     
  7. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    It at least rules her out for President of the USA.
     
  8. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    It's like she's the Canadian in the relationship
     
  9. Sake

    Sake Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Josh's relatives are pleading for ethics from media.. good luck with that. But yeah, nothing worse than media lapping up a traumatized babbler giving them headlines.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...n-hostage-family-joshua-boyle-caitlan-coleman

    I hope his family is getting support as well, they are probably exhausted and overwhelmed.

    Josh did say in one interview he was shocked at how broken they all were which hopefully means he will be saying yes to assistance.
     
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  10. yankee8255

    yankee8255 Force Ghost star 6

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  11. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    Wait...it was the first child that was murdered? I thought it was number 3 or 4.

    That makes the decision have additional children even more bizarre. Would you not assume that any kids would be murdered after your experience with the first?
     
  12. yankee8255

    yankee8255 Force Ghost star 6

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    Where did you see that?
     
  13. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    In the article you posted :D
     
  14. Sake

    Sake Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I don't think anyone knows. Articles have never been clear and claims vary.
     
  15. yankee8255

    yankee8255 Force Ghost star 6

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    Ok, missed it the first time I read the article.
     
  16. Rylo Ken

    Rylo Ken Force Ghost star 7

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    Pretty telling that Josh's family is begging the media not to communicate with Josh because he's not in a stable frame of mind. That suggests that some of what he's already said may be confabulation. I don't doubt the trauma though, and I hope the family can heal, either together or separated by well-enforced restraining orders.
     
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  17. yankee8255

    yankee8255 Force Ghost star 6

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    What is the media‘s„ethical“ obligation if he contacts them, or even gives a news crew a tour of the house?
     
  18. Rylo Ken

    Rylo Ken Force Ghost star 7

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    1. It's news. There's an international audience for the story.
    2. I do think that once journalists have been warned that Joshua may be so mentally traumatized by his captivity that he is unable to make accurate statements about it, then they have an ethical obligation to consider whether they should be printing his statements, at least without reference to the caveat.
    3. Journalists absolutely have an ethical obligation to consider and protect the privacy of the children. If the father is unstable but granting access to the children, and other family members object to that, as a reporter I would not report on the children. I would not record images of them.

    also I have Googled the NPR ethics handbook, which includes, among other things:


     
  19. yankee8255

    yankee8255 Force Ghost star 6

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    Unfortunately, NPR‘s standards are probably the top end of the spectrum, and most organizations have considerably lower standards.
     
  20. Rylo Ken

    Rylo Ken Force Ghost star 7

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    you put "ethics" in quotes for a reason. Think about how many news outlets now have overt strategies for using their stories and headlines to try to bait Donald Trump into a response.

    If you graduated from journalism school, you've had at least one course in journalistic ethics. After that it gets sketchy.
     
  21. Darth_Invidious

    Darth_Invidious Force Ghost star 6

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    If you'll excuse my bleak cynicism, picture this: you and your mate are held in captivity for five years by animals fanatics and your mate was already not of a sound state of mind. Now try to imagine the dark, foul **** that girl was probably put through by both her captives and maybe even her husband. Crap that probably resulted in unwanted pregnancies.

    TBH, I hope the extent of the trauma is only PTSD and nothing more serious than that, both mentally and physically.
     
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  22. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    I guess the question people have is their living conditions. Were they in the same cell? Room? Kept separate and allowed to see each other? How many times do your captors allow you to say, "Oops, she's pregnant again" before you keep them separate? Perhaps they don't mind the pregnancies perhaps babies become better bargaining chips?
     
  23. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    FFS....Sake
     
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  24. Sake

    Sake Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Actually I am the drink.
     
  25. jp-30

    jp-30 Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Maybe she's just waiting for Josh to stop talking so she can have her turn?