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JCC JediWarrior And Connemara Missing In Afghanistan (Update: What a ****show.)

Discussion in 'Community' started by Fire_Ice_Death, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. Fire_Ice_Death

    Fire_Ice_Death Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    He did want to be a war journalist. I remember that causing a bit of a tiff at one point.
     
  2. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Force Ghost star 8

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  3. harpua

    harpua Chosen One star 9

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    Aw man... do we really need to Montie this thread?
     
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  4. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent 2017 Celebrity Deathpool Winner star 10

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    No really, me > than you. But this thread is not about me and you so move on because a mother may be dead in a foreign land and her baby with her. You are really not that important to the topic.
     
  5. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Force Ghost star 8

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    We need to Montie every thread.
     
  6. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    Guys. Shut up. Thanks.
     
  7. harpua

    harpua Chosen One star 9

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    You should just start a Montie thread, and then you can Montie that thread forever, and ever.
     
  8. TahiriVeilaSolo69

    TahiriVeilaSolo69 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  9. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent 2017 Celebrity Deathpool Winner star 10

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    And I'll take pleasure in viewing it.
     
  10. Kiki-Gonn

    Kiki-Gonn Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I remember them both but not very well.

    It's an incredibly strange story, I just hope that against the odds they are alive and return soon.
     
  11. Eeth-my-Koth

    Eeth-my-Koth Jedi Grand Master star 9

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    Not to be morbid. But she probably died before having the baby which technically means she was not a mother. Hmm...this is an interesting thought. Are prego women already mothers. I'll be curious to hear an answer from somebody pro life.
     
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  12. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent 2017 Celebrity Deathpool Winner star 10

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    I can answer that. Forget to get a pregnant woman a card or something on Mother's day and you'll find out!
     
  13. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    they are but if they try to use the HOV lane u best believe even the most hardline prolifers are gonna give em the stinkeye
     
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  14. solojones

    solojones Force Ghost star 9

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    Well, in a lot of places if they're murdered then the baby does count as a separate life legally. I'm pro-life so to me it's always a person, but I think if someone is planning on having that baby then it doesn't really matter where you stand on abortion because the mother's intent was clearly to have and raise that child, not to abort it. So this child would have been born, and the loss of that intended life is the motivation behind things like double homicide laws for pregnant women being killed. This isn't about abortion, it's about murder. Not that I want to drag on that debate, I just thought I'd respond to your query.
     
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  15. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Not much to say beyond that a ransom demand after them being missing nearly a month is pretty bad, if that's what happened. If it's any comfort, missing American civilians are near the top of the list for intelligence priorities overseas; if they're still alive we'll eventually find them.
     
  16. Handmaiden Yané

    Handmaiden Yané Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Wow, this is bizarre. I almost didn't believe it when Kate told me today, but that news story link definitely confirms it...

    While I tried my best to be friendly to Connemara, it wasn't always easy and I haven't spoken to her in years. I sincerely hope that her and her husband are okay, but all signs point to that being extremely unlikely.

    Also, I don't really understand how it can be that hard for them to stay either in Canada or the US after they were married?


    Just...wow. I can't really wrap my head around this. Why would anyone (unless you're in the military and ordered to go there) go to Afghanistan?!
     
  17. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    I remember both of them from years ago and wow. Just wow. I hope they're OK. :(
     
  18. GenAntilles

    GenAntilles Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    When I was in college about a year ago we had a speaker come to one of our education classes who told us about his time as teacher in Afghanistan. I've known about 6 or 7 others who have been there in the past 3-4 years. All of them have returned safely and have said they'd love to go back. They tell me if you respect the locals, speak the language, dress like them, they'll accept you as one of their own and no amount of terrorist bravado would make them EVER give you over to them. The the speaking to us about it told us he felt safer walking in that Afghan village then he did in America. I believe he and his organization are based mostly in the Northern part of the country. The only reason he left was because his wife got pregnant so they went back to the states, but I believe he said he and his wife and child plan to go back in a few years.
     
  19. Darth McClain

    Darth McClain Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I didn't know either of them well, but this is just crazy to think about.
     
  20. Lowbacca_1977

    Lowbacca_1977 Jedi Master star 6

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    Only commenting on this because of the "I think ... it doesn't really matter where you stand on abortion" part.... I would say I 100% am of the stance that if someone is pregnant and murdered, that is only one death and only one murder.
     
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  21. Kyle Katarn

    Kyle Katarn Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Some US states have tried murderers of pregnant women with two counts of murder instead of just one. I cannot cite a particular case offhand, but I seem to recall a man here in Iowa being charged with 2 murders when he killed his pregnant wife/girlfriend. I'll see if I can find any other cases like it, it isn't common, but it isn't unheard of either. Of course, whether or not Afghan law would recognize such a thing as murder is another matter entirely.

    Edit: OK, so it's wikipedia, but they DO have links to actual legal sources. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act
     
  22. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    in the bible if you make a woman miscarry against her (husband's) will they take one of ur hands. same if you steal a loaf of bread or w/e
     
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  23. Lowbacca_1977

    Lowbacca_1977 Jedi Master star 6

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    California has that stuff too. I just think it's incompatible with pro-choice stances.
     
  24. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Eh, not really, if the biggest reason for being pro-choice is supporting, you know, the woman's right to choose whether she wants a baby or not.


    And fitting that this is where a thread about Connemera goes.
     
  25. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    Yeah, it was inspired by the Scott Peterson case.