Amph JJ Abrams' Star Trek Into Darkness

Discussion in 'Community' started by Ulkesh2, Sep 8, 2010.

  1. Souderwan Chosen One

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    Oh, I don't know if I'd give Star Trek credit for ever having really seriously bothering with explaining itself.

    Two words: Heisenberg Compensators.
  2. zacparis VIP

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    Oh sure a lot of it is hogwash, but at least they tried to explain it. Every detail and line on all the ship designs (Federation at least) had a purpose and a function. Someone actually sat down and thought about it. Spock's ship looks like it was pulled straight from The Phantom Menace. I'd like to see them try and explain that one in the technical manual.
  3. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    It didn't even look consistent with Federation technology... then again, the Narada didn't look like a Romulan ship, either.


    And I think there's a difference between stuff not making sense in the real world ("Heisenberg compensators") and not making sense within the universe (usually apart from physics). Like design inconsistency other than the justifiable "we don't want to use tacky 1960's design."
  4. Souderwan Chosen One

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    True, Evan. I was actually more bothered by Spock's ship (it's design just didn't seem functional and was antithetical to Spock's personality) than anything else. Most other things you mention (bigger Enterprise, for example), I chalked up to the proverbial butterfly effect of the time change. But Spock's ship was ostensibly set in the same universe and timeline we're all familiar with. So there's just no excuse for it.



    There was also no excuse for this.


  5. Tholain Jedi Youngling

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    This is an alternate timeline, who says they have to stay there.
  6. DarthLowBudget Force Ghost

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    Chicken/egg. Someone designed the models because they were aesthetically what they were looking for, and then Okuda or whoever retrofitted reasons to the various rhymes.
  7. zacparis VIP

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    Yeah, that's pretty much it.

    The designers outlined the basic shape and themes of the Enterprises, then they (or someone else) got out the bible to fill in all the necessary details. Like I said, it was all thought out, they didn't just slap tentacles and spindly bits on for the sake of it.

    There's some great design comments around the E-D and the E-E out there, it's a really interesting process.
  8. FlareStorm Force Ghost

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    Lore, comics, and the novelization all say that the Jellyfish was specifically designed to transport Red Matter, which the Vulcan Science Council was messing around with before the whole Romulan supernova incident.

    Red Matter was in inherently dangerous, so you need spinning stuff for the containment procedure.

    Also, I can only vaguely recall a couple of examples of pure Vulcan ship design. Maybe they just like circles like the Federation likes to make it's ships like a girl spread eagle.
  9. DantheJedi Force Ghost

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  10. Magellan_the_Cat Jedi Master

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    Well, I think it has all the strengths and weaknesses of the movie.
    All flash eye-candy.
    Lots of shakey cam.
    Lots of bright-lights and dark backgrounds to cause eyestrain.
    And scenery that looks like it was copied from StarWars.

    I would say, "meh". I certainly have no interest in playing the game.
  11. MasterDillon Jedi Master

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    Liam Neeson a Klingon? This is intresting but no I don't want him to play as a Klingon even if it is Kang. It's good to hear that the Klingons will be coming back now let's see if we get the war that should have happened in "Errand of Mercy" which would be epic!!!!!!!!!!!!
  12. MasterDillon Jedi Master

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    An intresting fact is that J.J. Abrams took alot of ideas from Star Wars, and put it into the new Star Trek movie. He said that he was more of a fan then Star Trek which is ironic considering he directed the 09 film, and might be directing the 2012 flim.
  13. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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  14. AaylaSecurOWNED Force Ghost

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    I knew two of those things! And one of them was #9.
  15. firesaber Jedi Master

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    I don't believe for a minute that bit about Shatner not watching himself, but I found the rest of the list....fascinating ]-}
  16. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    I thought it odd too but there are many actors like that. Harrison Ford claimed to have not seen any of his films at the time he was on Inside The Actors Studio.
  17. Jedi-Anakin-Solo Force Ghost

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    It's an alternate timeline created by the Narada's interference. I doubt anything Nero did affected the Hirogen, so their history would remain unchanged (except for the chance Voyager won't get thrown into the Delta Quad, unless the timeline has a way of self-correcting ala LOST).
  18. Cushing's Admirer Chosen One

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    To each their own. I'm an old school Trek fan. For me most of the magic died with the travesty that was Enterprise (personal perception) and has only gotten worse since. (again, personal perception). I do wish Zach well with Spock. So glad he has Leonard's confidence and blessing regarding the passing of the torch. It was a pleasure to see them together at Grand Slam in 2008! :D
  19. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    He has finally been confirmed as directing the next film, which might not arrive in 2012.
  20. RX_Sith C&G Game Host

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  21. DantheJedi Force Ghost

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    A Klingon?

    A rogue Starfleet captain?

    Some TOS character like Harry Mudd?

    Hopefully not Khan, this is a new universe, they need to forge their own destiny.
  22. Chancellor_Ewok Force Ghost

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    I am guessing a Klingon. At one point he was going to play Darth Maul in Ep. I.
  23. DaenaBenjen42 Force Ghost

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    There's also the fact that the Hirogen have a satellite network and not a rapid-transport network... It would be far more likely to hear from the Vadduar (or however one spells it) than it would the Hirogen. If, you know, they weren't all in cold sleep underground on a planet suffering a nuclear winter...
  24. LandingGirl05 Jedi Grand Master

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  25. DantheJedi Force Ghost

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    I have the book that's from. It supposedly has some errors, but I don't mind.