Amph JJ Abrams' Star Trek Into Darkness

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  1. Jedi Merkurian Episode VII Thread-Reaper

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    Wil Wheaton's review. I find myself largely in agreement. Bonus points for mentioning what I think was the most mind-blowing episode of NextGen.
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  2. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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  3. Jedi Merkurian Episode VII Thread-Reaper

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    I got the soundtrack for Fathers' Day. With it having such pun-tastic song titles as Sub-Prime Directive and Warp Core Values, I'm glad that the music was outstanding. London Calling is particularly excellent.
  4. Jabba-wocky Chosen One

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    Can someone please explain who put human beings inside of missiles, and why, and who exactly knew about it? Because I don't understand this at all.
  5. Juliet316 Streak for Colors Bonanza Winner

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    I think the presumption is that Admiral Marcus did it to blackmail Khan.
  6. Jabba-wocky Chosen One

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    Okay, but why would he put them inside of a missile? Why wouldn't he just keep them locked up somewhere with an easily accessible kill switch, and make sure Khan knew he had done so? What does the missile part add to it?
  7. dp4m Chosen One

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    Khan did it as it was the only way to try and smuggle his people out of imprisonment; Marcus found out about it and Khan escaped, to which Marcus then told Kirk to launch them at Khan (thereby killing all of them) and then Marcus would have killed Kirk. All loose ends eliminated.

    Honestly, at least that part of the plan made sense somewhat.
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  8. Jabba-wocky Chosen One

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    How does that make sense? These was the most advanced weaponry in the entire Federation. Nothing would be subject to tighter regulation or have its movements more closely scrutinized. Using the real world parallel of nuclear weapons, one would expect that even neighboring regimes would be keeping tabs on the thing and have contingency plans to seize them if the government collapsed. How in the world is this universally watched target the easiest option for smuggling? Wouldn't it be better to smuggle them in something even mildly less conspicuous?
  9. dp4m Chosen One

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    Eh, I'm sort of okay with that since Khan himself was super-duper smart and in charge of the design and probably had run of the facility for the most part -- otherwise Khan wouldn't have known about the Vengeance and the plans to outfit it, etc.
  10. Jabba-wocky Chosen One

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    Yes but still? Why not smuggle them out in the garbage, or in a shipment of supplies, or any of literally dozens of innocuous shipments or cargo he would have access to as a staff member at the facility?
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    There's no way he could've done all... 72? by himself unless for some reason Robocop was okay with the process being very slow and inefficient. Khan would've had a team working for him, and their loyalty would be to the Federation rather than to his race of supermen. And why bother to still put the warheads in? If he expected people to somehow miss the LIVING HUMANS with life support systems inside the casing of the missiles, why would they notice missing warheads?

    And why would Robocop have let Khan have so much access to the cryo-pods anyway? Wasn't he supposed to be blackmailing Khan with them? Why even let Khan know where they were being stored?
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  12. rhinotaz Jedi Master

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    Please dont mind me i am just testing something off-topic.

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  13. DantheJedi Force Ghost

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    (Jay Leno voice) Did you hear about this? Did you hear about this?

    Apparently, IDW is going to do a Khan comic mini-series detailing the Eugenics Wars of the 1990s. I'm glad I don't give a damn about this, because I consider Greg Cox's Eugenics Wars books to the final word on the subject, but with the recent movie, I guess IDW just had to put their stamp on it.

    Right now, it's just one of those things that's best left alone until a reboot of Star Trek with a sliding timeline is put into place, so it could be set in the latter 21st/ early 22nd century.
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    Sorry to bump this thread with a random question but I have to know...am I the only one who sees a similarity? Because I crack up every single time I see that scene as a result. And given that it's supposed to be sad...well, it kind of takes me out of the movie.

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  16. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    Presumably because he was in charge of weapons design, not garbage disposal. The other Augments were probably in such a weapons facility, thus easier to get them into weapons than sneaking them out the door in a large, powered, trash can.
  17. Jabba-wocky Chosen One

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    I don't see how that makes sense. A person in charge of weapons design should conceivably be able to control shipments of anything related to weapons. For instance disposal of radioactive or biochemical wastes. Or what about ordering shipments or fuel to use as propulsion for the missiles? Electronics and microchips that would be part of the targeting systems? There's a wide array of different items he'd need moving in and out of his facilities to run a good weapons development division. Assuming that the only thing he could legitimately move are completed weapons is ridiculous.
  18. TrandoJedi Jedi Grand Master

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    Woah that's awesome he enjoyed it!
  19. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    Well, I'm assuming he didn't have free run of the facility, otherwise Marcus wouldn't have had to blackmail him with the Augments in the first place.
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    We call those "Star Wars fans."
  22. Jabba-wocky Chosen One

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    At that point, I have to default to Even's remarks about. If his access is that restricted, I don't see how he ever managed to install 72 life support pods into live, functioning munitions. If he managed that, I don't see why he didn't use any more intelligent method for smuggling them to safety.

    Also, though, since the main bad guy clearly knew that they were in there, why didn't he just A)stop him from installing the life support pods in the first place or B)take them out of the missiles and threaten their lives from a safe place that was under his control, after he realized what happened?
  23. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    He didn't know they were in there until after Khan did it. He could have taken them out of them but instead chose to use them to to get rid of them, cover his tracks and start the war he wanted.
  24. DarthMane2 Force Ghost

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    Well I pissed off the fans of Lindelof on Twitter. It was great. I simply asked him what he thought of his movie(which he co-wrote, did not write entirely) being voted worst ST film? He replied with a "FEELS GREAT. thanks for asking." And then the childrens came out in force.

    Nuke still has it.
  25. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    And you expected him and them to react how, exactly?