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ST JJ Abrams to direct Episode VII

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Kuestmaster, Jan 24, 2013.

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  1. Grand Master Galen Marek

    Grand Master Galen Marek Jedi Knight star 4

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    Well it appears he wont be directing episodes 8 & 9 no more good ideas? Shame.
     
  2. drunkpenguin

    drunkpenguin Jedi Youngling

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    Cause they will anyways. Like many SW was a huge influence on me as a kid. Its always in my heart and I just get bummed out everytime they jack with it. I really wish they could leave it as was and write some new stuff. Old school hollywood is out of ideas and jj is part of the group.
     
  3. Krueger

    Krueger Chosen One star 5

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    lol. That's the second one you've given me today. Keep 'em coming.
     
  4. mratm23

    mratm23 Jedi Knight star 3

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    He won't do VIII. He could barely stand to be away from his family for the VII production and such.
     
  5. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No, more like he wants to be able to spend time with his family. One of his issues was that he didn't want to film in London for several months and tried to have the studio work done in the US, but was denied. So he opted for one film.
     
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  6. starocean90

    starocean90 Chosen One star 8

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    This summer, a group of powerful, passionate filmmakers, including Christopher Nolan, Steven Spielberg and Martin Scorsese, rallied like-minded directors who didn't want to see celluloid die on their watch. It was a critical time: Kodak, the last surviving purveyor of motion-picture film, was deciding whether to continue manufacturing the format.
    He, Abrams, Judd Apatow, Bennett Miller and Edgar Wright were among those who made calls to Kodak and studio production heads to seek a sustainable future for film. "It's not just an idea that would be nice to keep going," says Abrams. "It's an aesthetically and materially important thing." (His upcoming Star Wars: Episode VII — The Force Awakens was shot on film.) Without dismissing digital outright, film "is more robust, has dimension and weight to it," says Miller. Nolan favors film's "unmatched resolution" and its ability to "reproduce color the way the eye sees it."
    Abrams: “I wanted to use film [on Star Wars] because there was going to be so much work done in digital, I wanted the standard to be
    film, so that everything had to match that. You just know when you’re looking at something shot on film, there’s a reality to it — you just can’t deny it.”

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/film-fighters-all-one-frame-758431
     
  7. Qui-Riv-Brid

    Qui-Riv-Brid Force Ghost star 5

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    Actually it's extremely easy to deny. He may know when something is shot on film but probably 99.999% of people don't.

    I really would like to ask him if he loves film so much then why is it as you can see on the enhanced commentary for Star Trek ID that the images he captures on film are totally regraded to look often almost totally unlike what he shot on film.

    Nolan is strange too "reproduce color the way the eye sees it."

    Except that what he shoots isn't what the eye or the camera sees either. They aren't just fiddling around with red, blue, green etc like when film was edited in analog.
     
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  8. Lord D'arg

    Lord D'arg Jedi Master star 3

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    I love when he says "this would look really cool... if there was a lens flare".
     
  9. starocean90

    starocean90 Chosen One star 8

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  10. jedijax

    jedijax Force Ghost star 6

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    Something very odd and off about Abrams' comments. He seemed much more nervous than excited, despite what he said about the reverse.
     
  11. TheBBP

    TheBBP Force Ghost star 6

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    "It is an intense and terrifying prospect." I bet that he means every word of that lol.
     
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  12. maychild

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    Funny how Lucas is pilloried for taking off a decade and a half between the OT and the PT to raise his children (being as filming the OT was one of the things that cost him his marriage, and he didn't want to make that mistake with his kids), and accused of "just sitting around on his a**," while JJ is exalted.

    Lucas devoted a decade of his life and a great deal of his own money to make the PT, and people either ignore it or act like he "just threw the PT together over a few weekends." Meanwhile, St. Peter "The Great" Jackson is hailed as a genius, et al for "working so hard and so long on LOTR, to the exclusion of all else."

    But it's not surprising, given that we've already seen how CGI is evil when Lucas uses it, but other filmmakers can use it with impunity and not only receive no criticism, but get praised to the skies for it. The same people who falsely claimed that the PT was "all CGI" practically gave themselves hernias to heap praise on "Avatar." And mere months after falsely claiming that ROTS was all CGI/greenscreen, they couldn't praise St. Peter "The Great" Jackson's "King Kong," which actually was all CGI/greenscreen, highly enough.
     
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  13. darth-sinister

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    There's a bit of a difference. Lucas did take time off, but when he made the PT, he did so during the summer months and brought his children with him. That way they were able to spend time together, while he worked on the film. It took him four months to make the film and then returned home when production wrapped. For Abrams though, this is a different matter. Filming ran longer and he was more hands on involved in pre-production which is why he was gone for a lot longer a period of time. There's also the fact that Lucas put three years between each film which gave him plenty of time to make one film at a time. That's not going to happen here as filming took place last year and the film is slated to come out at the end of this year and the next film is supposed to come out in 2017. The use of more practical sets and location shooting is a factor.

    In Jackson's case, though, he's been receiving a lot of heat for using more CGI and for bloating up one film by making it three. So even he's being turned on by the fan base.
     
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  14. TheBBP

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    I honestly think that The Hobbit was better served "bloated" than what could be done with one film.
     
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  15. Danfromumbrella

    Danfromumbrella Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I wouldn't look too much into his comments. Everyone involved has said how special this film has been during the making of it but at the same time Abram's knows people are expecting something that will make the old fans proud. It's a lot of pressure to please the old audience while making sure the new film stands the test of time.

    Star Trek he wasn't a huge fan of, Star Wars he was....so it's more important to him for it to succeed, which brings on more worries.
     
  16. Master_Lok

    Master_Lok Force Ghost star 6

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    I had no issues with Lucas taking time off for his family, props to him. I did have issues with the over-reliance on C.G.I. amongst other things. The less said about Peter Jackson, the better (I want to utterly spank him and his writing/editing/etc. teams for making such a mess of the Hobbit)

    Anyway, back on subject here: I applaud J.J. for not only wanting to spend time with his family, but being a very front and center Hollywood person in bringing the practical aspects of special effects film-making back to the movies. That he also wants to save 35mm film is a good thing too.

    Well, if J.J. can make me enjoy his Star Wars, hopefully Rian Johnson will too.
     
  17. jabberwalkie

    jabberwalkie Jedi Master star 4

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    The jury won't render its verdict on TFA until the movie is seen and I think it is too early to give JJ praise on a product we haven't even seen yet. I am excited for more Star Wars though, and that is thanks to Disney IIRC through their acquisition of Lucasfilm.

    I remember reading that Edgar Wright was very, very interested in helming a Star Wars film, so maybe he will get his chance. He has done a pretty good job with the movies he has done in the past IMO.
     
  18. LUH-3417

    LUH-3417 Jedi Master star 4

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    i didnt say it was evil to use cgi, but i simply didnt even bother watching them. keep the practically all animated adventures of these crapfests and ill just choose not to pay money to them. you can tell when something is going to be an all animated cgi crapfest because the ads are like drooling and blowing up with praise and flash and sizzle but will you really remember that movie a week later?
     
  19. maychild

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    You're joking, right? TFA is already being praised to the skies and people have seen, what, 75 seconds of it. It's already being hailed as "saving SW" from the so-called "ignominy of the prequels." It's already being exalted for "bringing practical effects back to SW," never mind that a) practical effects never left SW; and b) the CGI in the trailer. JJ Abrams is being hailed as a genius and the "savior" of SW.

    Never mind the use of practical sets and location shooting in the prequels. But we're supposed to ignore that.

    Jackson is being absolved of all wrongdoing on "The Hobbit," and instead it's being blamed on Lucas and his evil influence. His "horrible prequels" are the reason Jackson decided to bloat up the "Hobbit" book into a trilogy. His "horrible prequels" are the reason Jackson used so much CGI. Although of course he didn't use as much CGI as the "horrible prequels."
     
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  20. jabberwalkie

    jabberwalkie Jedi Master star 4

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    You know I am talking about the movie as a whole right? A trailer can be misleading to the quality of the story in the movie. The trailer for Prometheus comes to mind.
     
  21. maychild

    maychild Jedi Knight star 3

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    Yes, I know you're talking about the movie as a whole. So are the people who are practically calling for JJ Abrams to be elevated to sainthood and calling TFA a masterpiece and how it's already shown it's better than the prequels because the ball droid in the trailer is a practical effect.
     
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  22. jabberwalkie

    jabberwalkie Jedi Master star 4

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    I am a little confused as to why bringing up the amount of CGI and/or practical effects usage has anything to do with what I said. I said essentially that it is too early to pass judgement on a product we have not even seen yet.

    BTW, every time I see that ball droid I think "Man I really, really want to see them kick that soccer ball droid."

    Off topic, I am going to laugh SOOOOOO hard if JJ some how works in the Rimbaldi device from Alias or Red Matter from Star Trek (2009).
     
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  23. City Councilman Binks

    City Councilman Binks Jedi Master star 4

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    Did I just read that?

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    Did someone just post this online?

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  24. Alien Vanguard

    Alien Vanguard Jedi Master star 3

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    While i agree that one should be careful with praising TFA based on a short teaser, I have to say that it gave me that good ol' Star Wars vibe. Now, it may be mediocre but surely, it can't be any worse than the PT.
     
  25. maychild

    maychild Jedi Knight star 3

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    Which doesn't stop people, especially PT-haters and their representatives in the media, from doing it.

    But it's a practical effect! That proves TFA is going to be better than the "all CGI" prequels!



    I'm fairly sure he'll be hailed as a genius no matter what he does...or doesn't do.

    See what I mean?
     
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