ST John Williams scored TFA - incl. Soundtrack discussion

It was definitely the Pit of Carkoon, but there were subtle eerie tones in between each horn blast. In the original, the horn blasts were separated by less than a second of silence.

 

i compared them and they were different.

 

Even the Star Wars theme was different. It is not the classic one. The teaser music was based on the ROTJ carkoon theme. But it was not the same.

 

There's actually an alternate version of the Carkoon theme on the ROTJ Special Edition soundtrack. It sounds a bit more similar to the TFA teaser music

 

It's definitely got influence from that theme but it's definitely new music. The official Star Wars Twitter confirmed as much when the clip was released.

I loved that music. If that's any indication of where williams is at im stoked. When kylo enters the subtle ambient music there was really forboding.

 

Also keep in mind that the LSO hasn't been the same group of players since 1977. As the personnel changes, so too does the sound. As someone else pointed out, good players are good players anywhere, whether in London or Los Angeles.

As for who could take over for Williams, Giacchino would probably be the best bet, especially if Abrams sticks around. I think the spin-offs will have a rotating list of composers, as their music will probably differ greatly from the central saga.

 

Yeah I listened to it again finally paying special attention to the music. The tones in the background were indeed moody. I agree if Williams can get that kind of feel from just the teaser, what he will do with the rest is going to once again be incredible.

The thing about Williams is that he can watch a sequence, know just a little bit about where the director is going and create the perfect music. If there ever comes a point where he himself cannot be the one to actually conduct it, that won't be a problem. The vision and color he creates seems to be so automatic.

 

Then they are fools... It's a completely new piece. It certainly has similarities to previous work, primarily because it's Williams... but for anyone familiar with Williams scores, they'll recognise it more as a standard Williams non thematic action cue, similar to many he's used in JP, HP, IJ and of course SW.

 

what about the composer for THE CLONE WARS, and The Rebels? I wouldn't mind If he took over for Williams he already has experience with Star Wars ....

 

I don't think you can equate scoring for Rebels or Clone Wars to scoring a major motion picture.

 

Star Wars Is Star Wars, Clone Wars, and Rebels Is very cinematic....

 

Not necessarily... it depnds on what experience he has in scoring a circa 2 hour feature, experience in composing original material, experience in orchestration (scoring for size of orchestra involved, conducting size of orchestra etc.). Not saying they haven't got that experience, but it is a different beast and doing one doesn't automatically qualify you for the other....

 

well he has done a ton of Made For TV movies, and Minnie Series, His only Theatrical film was The Clone Wars Movie. I got this info on IMDB Take it with a,

 

Best piece of music (and scene) from the teaser for me.

 

Rest assured that there will absolutely not be a drop in quality with from the LSO to the "freelance" orchestra. There's a lot of great LA guys that are world-class musicians, especially when it comes to pops and soundtrack stuff. Any worries about the quality of musicianship are completely unfounded.

 

I sure hope not. Kiner's Star Wars work is weak.

 

London Symphony Orch ‏@londonsymphony 4h4 hours ago
@Maxinekwokadams @Parqueros @ClassicFM @starwars JW was devastated and wrote us a lovely letter.

London Symphony Orch @londonsymphony 4h4 hours ago​

@BLOWFISHNation it's not health issues, it's scheduling. They're recording the score over 3 months in LA. Impossible for us.

 

Not wrong. It is new. It's definitely influenced by that one though. Williams has written many similar themes with unique twists to them.

 

Abraaaaaaaaaams!!!!!!

 

told you it was JJ's fault.

 

Heh, I'm not sure. Abrams supposedly battled Iger to push for more time to get everything right. Given that the LSO says Williams was clearly upset about this, the decision seems a bit at odds with that impulse. So if not for JW's benefit, I can only imagine the choice - whomever made it - was based on time constraints. And that sucks.

 

I'm sure it'll still be incredibly epic.

 

I personally feel that you can totally hear when different orchestra's have been used e.g. the difference in the Indiana Jones scores. It has no bearing on the quality of the scoring or orchestration per se, but it is different. Anyone who knows there orchestral music quite well will tell you that every orchestra has a different tone and feel, and not one performance will be exactly the same. So, there will be a tangible difference... but for 99.9% of listeners, it won’t be disenable, or it won't be important enough to them to be discernible.

 

We will either get the story in a Rinzler book or never know at all.

 

For the musically inclined like myself, this is absolutely true.