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Speculation Jon Favreau and David Fincher Pursuing 'Star Wars'

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by Bazinga'd , Nov 30, 2012.

  1. Darthsuggs

    Darthsuggs Jedi Master star 4

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    I think Vaughn is the perfect marriage of art house and commercial director. At the same time if Fincher gets the job I am absolutely thrilled. On paper Vaughn is the best and safest choice but Fincher is the best filmmaker. I like Favreau (he's a cool guy) but he just doesn't seem to be able to direct a climactic battle scene.
     
  2. Darth-Seldon

    Darth-Seldon Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Lighten up
     
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  3. DarthBrian

    DarthBrian Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm not in control of my brightness levels at the moment. Lost the remote.
     
  4. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    I would love it if Fincher directed. I have enjoyed all of his movies except for Alien 3, and I know that' not really his fault. It would be interesting to see what his style would be like.
     
  5. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    Well, for one thing, the films would be dark. And I don't mean thematically, I mean literally dark. And you can pretty much say goodbye to natural-looking color timing, hello to desaturated yellow-brown tint on everything.
     
  6. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    Well as long as he doesn't have Trent Reznor write the soundtrack. I liked the simplistic score to The Social Network, but it obviously does not belong in Star Wars.
     
  7. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    If it's got a good beat, Yoda can dance to it.
     
  8. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    BUT YODA'S DEAD
     
  9. Darthsuggs

    Darthsuggs Jedi Master star 4

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    Even with Alien3 there is a lot of interesting shots. Visually it's superb, even if the overall film slacks a few things.
     
  10. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    I saw the director's cut. It's an incredibly flawed movie with a very good soundtrack and some great nightmarish imagery. It's loads better than the crappy AVP movies of course.
     
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  11. Krueger

    Krueger Chosen One star 5

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    I think the director's cut of Alien 3 is much better. Still, you have to also remember that Alien 3 was his very first feature film. It’s pretty impressive for a first timer.
     
  12. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    I agree. Didn't he do music videos before movies?
     
  13. Echo-07

    Echo-07 Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes.

    One of the things I don't get about the "he's too dark for SW" argument is that the material, the scripts were dark. SW will only be as dark as the script. IE David Fincher isn't going to insert gore, or psychological elements or foul language just for the sake of it.

    Again, he's diverse. Benjamin Button and Social are not dark movies.
     
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  14. Darthsuggs

    Darthsuggs Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes...very much so. He was quite acclaimed at it.
     
  15. Artoo-Dion

    Artoo-Dion Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Honestly, the only thing I don't like about Fincher is his use of colour. I really, really, really hate the palette of his films and find them hard to watch for that reason. If he ditches the green/teal/brown look for SW, I'd be happy to see him direct.
     
  16. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Force Ghost star 4

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    My problem is that I don't think these Fincher rumors have much merit or meat to them and yet when another director is chosen there will be this collective disappointment from people as a result.

    When you're young and you first discover R-rated movies I think everybody goes through a violent phase where they start with horror and then work their way up to gangster movies and then learn about Reservoir Dogs, Fight Club, and other artsy violent movies. It's just a phase most people go through and so this idea of Fincher directing these has beem with us since AOTC. People wanted him to direct ROTS. He's most people's "cool director" before they learn about other cool directors. He's like the gateway for most people to really discovering film.

    The problem with Fincher at his most stylish is that his movies don't age particularly well. They're like hyper stylized music videos where you can guess the year they were made in just by the look of the colors and wardrobe. I don't want that for Star Wars. Even Benjamin Button and The Social Network had huge amounts of color grading done to give them specific looks. Both really had a fall forrest-like color palette of browns, oranges and greens rather than anything natural looking. It looks cool and stands out because it views like a photoshopped magazine but it ages poorly and lacks warmth. Even his "warmest" movie, Benjamin Button, was cold, especially when compared to the movie most were reminded of... Forrest Gump. Fincher is a lot of things but magical and charming don't immediately jump to mind.

    And as good as Hugo was... It still felt like Scorcese trying to emulate Spielberg but not quite reaching those fuzzy magical heights. It's a testament to his talent and film knowledge that he was able to push himself so well but not everybody can do that or should. There's nothing wrong with being very good at certain genres, moods or atmospheres. Most directors would kill to be known for being really good in any one particular area.

    I like Fincher a lot. I thought reznor's electronic score for TSN was great too. Both artists suited the material perfectly because TSN was about revenge, betrayal, and the cold power of money and how it corrupts. Star Wars is different and I think needs somebody different. There's no doubt that Fincher is now the name everybody wants to talk about. My concern is whether they'll give any other, less overtly stylish director a fair chance if they're announced instead. This Fincher rumor is bad news for Vaughn, Johnson or Favreau. They'll all be viewed horribly now if given the reigns. Somebody at Lucas Film needs to clear this up by announcing a director soon and answering some press questions because all this speculation is just setting up the fanbase for disappointment and anger.
     
  17. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Force Ghost star 4

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    Has there even been a joke in a Fincher movie... Ever? Seriously. They're more serious than the Matrix movies when they get philosophical. I watch Stardust and I'm reminded of the Pricess Bride and Star Wars. I watch the end of Xmen first class with Charles pleading with Erik to "be the better man" and I'm reminded of Luke talking to Vader.

    Fincher's direction is cool, serious, bleak, violent, clinical and chilling. He's perhaps the best in the industry at delivering that combo.

    Vaughn's direction is cool, warm, sincere, whimsical, thrilling, humorous AND serious and bleak where necessary. He's not the best at any of these things but he's a rising star at delivering movies that have all of these things and he's getting better.

    I don't think Vaughn could have done The Social Network, Fight Club, Zodiac, The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, or 7even better than Fincher because those films needed his strengths but I also don't think Fincher could have or would have done Stardust, Kickass, or Xmen: First Class betrr than Vaugn and the latter films are closer to what Star Wars is in my mind.
     
  18. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    Dead can dance!

    It depends on what you mean. A formal, traditional joke complete with punchline? I can't recall. But there has definitely been comedy in Fincher films.
     
  19. Voss

    Voss Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I think Vaughn already has the gig
     
  20. Echo-07

    Echo-07 Jedi Master star 4

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    I think so too! In fact I just got Stardust from the library. Next stop: Layer Cake.
     
  21. Jordan1Kenobi

    Jordan1Kenobi Host of Star Wars Character Contest star 6 VIP - Game Host

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    I reckon Jon Favreau would do a fantastic job considering the movies that he's directed.
     
  22. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    One thing you'll notice about Layer Cake is that Tom Hardy serves no purpose whatsoever and could have been totally removed from the film without significant effect.
     
  23. black_saber

    black_saber Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think they Are going to reboot the AVP movies. I just don't know when and how!
     
  24. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Lawgiver & Casual Flyer star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Man, I hope so. Talk about a cool concept that was totally screwed up by the powers that be.
     
  25. ezekiel22x

    ezekiel22x Force Ghost star 5

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    I'll take Fincher if he leaves the production and wants his directing credit removed. Alien 3 is my favorite of his.