But you honestly believe that OSU's defense is as good as last year's? ND did put 20 points on them and it was a one score game until the very end. I'm not sure if OSU would or could play better than they did last year in the Fiesta Bowl. Lots of big plays that went their way, it could happen again but who knows. I just don't believe that OSU is better with Hawk and Carpenter with the rest of the defense gone. The Michigan game didn't make me a believer in the OSU defense.