i second kay_dee's motion! it's a great idea to have our summer meetings there, then back to the metreon, where, incidentally, i met you guys maybe next time we could have a picnic up there - what do you think matt, would they let us? we could all bring something to save money and show off our culinary skills! that would be fun. i still can't believe parking is free up there. i am still stupefied.