Amph Jurassic World, Fallen Kingdom, Dominion & Camp Cretaceous

You're comparing a true logo teaser trailer made in 2000 to a full trailer made in 2014.

Compare it to the teasers for the first two films (but especially TLW) which didn't use footage from the actual films (or maybe just some 2nd unit B-roll for JP):




JP3's was still weaker but it's a much more fair comparison.

The full JP3 trailer would be the closer comparison to your JW1 example:



(obviously accounting for different trailer era methods and 13 years of CGI advancements; not to mention whether or not a film had an actual finished script to market).

 

I did specify that you do have to account for different trailer era methods (ie: JP3 in 2000/2001 was still the peak of the "Trailer Narrator" cliche, whereas JW in 2014 is among the early onslaught of the "Piano Keystroke" cliche.

My point, though, was, as you mentioned, they don't really do logo teasers anymore (those are now more commonly saved for Comi-Con events and the like). As a result, JW didn't have a real logo teaser trailer like the first 3 films did. Like most modern films, the "teaser trailer" for JW is closer to simply being "Trailer #1".

Thus, I was trying to convey that comparing an older-style logo teaser to a modern "Trailer #1" isn't really apples to apples, even if they are both the first "teasers" for their respective films. By instead comparing the JP3 "Trailer #1" to the JW "teaser"/"Trailer #1", you get a much more similar set of material to contrast: actual footage from the film (some shots without FX), not a detailed rundown of the story, just teasing you with the initial premise and threat, etc.

Without derailing the thread by going too in-depth, it all depends on your criteria. Most trailers before the late 80's (like that ESB example) are often unrecognizable due to the pacing of trailers and production/FX at the time. It's not until the 90's that the modern trailer really emerged (though there are always exceptions). It's just the trappings around it that keep changing.

90's had Trailer Voice Guy and repurposed music from other movies. Mid/Late-90's started adding in fancy title cards under the narration as software emerged to make that easier to produce. Trailer Voice Guy got killed off by too many cliches permeating the public consciousness around the time of Planet of the Apes and the one Jerry Seinfeld movie. Then the 2000's brought in the Choir of Doom (think Spider-Man 2, etc) and more original/generic music. Late-2000's/early-2010's brought in the BWWWOMMMM with Inception and Transformers 2. Mid-2010's brought in the Silence and Piano Keystroke (TFA, JW, etc). And in recent years the Creepy Cover of a Classic Song has emerged as the latest trend.

They all become silly after a certain point but that doesn't mean they cease being good. For instance, some of the best trailers ever made came out in the 90's even though they utilized the trappings of the medium at the time.

For instance, to bring this back around on-topic, the first non-logo trailer for TLW is still outstanding:



Although, granted, it avoids trailer narration (though the TV spots didn't). Still, as I had not seen Backdraft until a year or two later when it came out on a non-Jewel Case DVD release, that trailer firmly owns the magnificent "Burn It All" by Hans Zimmer as being more associated with TLW than Backdraft.

It's so good, I dare say it's cheating to actually use it in a trailer.

 

Saw this on Saturday. I can’t believe there’s no dinosaurs in it. It’s just about some man and his giant dog, who win a spaceship playing cards.

 

Looking ahead at JW3 in 3 years, some details from recent weeks:

JW3 will be a "science thriller":

Trevorrow, who is currently writing Jurassic World 3 with Emily Carmichael is mum on plot details but does say the final film will still feature Owen (Chris Pratt) and Claire (Bryce Dallas Howard). He adds, “But there’s other characters who we’ll meet in Fallen Kingdom you’ll realize are major characters.”

Trevorrow also says the next film will be most close in tone to Steven Spielberg’s 1993 original. Reveals the director, “If I could contextualize each film, I would say Jurassic World was an action adventure, Fallen Kingdom is kind of a horror suspense film, and Jurassic World 3 will be a science thriller in the same way that Jurassic Park was.”
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And it won't feature any hybrids:

I'm looking forward to, in the third film, getting a little back into the Paleontological, wild animal, true dinosaur nature of all of it.​

I like that last part, since it was already getting repetitive after having genetic hybrid experiments in two consecutive films (potentially three, if you count the Spino in JP3).

 

Another piece of music I associate more with the trailer it was used in rather than the film it was composed for.

I wonder what the last trailer to do that was. Star Trek 11? I know that’s an outlier and that the trend died off much earlier, though.

 

JP3 never had a finished script during production- it was essentially filmed as the pages were written. The original script *they were going to use (the second story concept, IIRC) was rejected a little over a month before filming was set to begin. However, sets, props, costumes, etc had already begun being made for that rejected script, so the final film still had to incorporate those elements within the new "rescue mission" story (primarily the aviary and lab).

As for the ending itself? I don't know if it was budgetary issues due the above or they just didn't realize how it came across at the time (they filmed the ending during a second round of Hawaii shooting since the ending hadn't been written during the initial shoot).

*The original idea was seemingly inspired by the Costa Rica mainland attacks subplot from the first book, with Alan being part of the team investigating. Alan's part of the group eventually crash land on the island, which is where the aviary and lab sequences would take place, while the other group continues the mainland investigation.

I had been thinking about how a JP prequel might be the way to go in the future once the JW trilogy is finished but I don't see how they could make a film that would deliver what audiences want from the franchise (ie: people getting chased by dinos).

The first film's setup is basically centered around the "Shoot her!" incident being what triggers the insurance/backer concerns that necessitates bringing in Alan, Ellie & Ian, etc. So having some kind of dino incident doesn't seem possible (only Muldoon's "They're lethal at 8 months- and I do mean lethal." comment might leave an opening for something small-scale). It would also undermine Hammond's vision and role if this was the second time things had gone wrong.

Add to that most of the actors who could serve in a prequel have either been aged out of the role (and you're not going to get de-aging CGI for a whole film) or have died. So you can't even, say, focus on a popular character like Roland Tembo.

That said, some kind of interquel set before JW but after JP3 has a lot of territory it could explore- the end of Ingen, Biosyn is probably still around, Masrani acquiring the islands/assets, the development of the Spino as a test for the techniques that would breed the I-Rex down the road, the Gene Guard Act, the Dinosaur Protection Group being formed, the birth of Blue, etc. If Masrani moved all the Sorna dinos to Nublar for the park, then that whole operation would actually be a perfect setting for a movie (since you could do a mirror to Lost World's hunt and Fallen Kingdom's heartless captures).

 

Yeah, basically JP3 introduced some continuity errors by introducing the Spino. First, the Spino was not on any of the InGen dino species lists shown in the films. Second, if TLW & JP3 are both set on Sorna, where was the Spino during TLW (especially if it was as aggressive as depicted in JP3)?

The latter is sometimes handwaved away by saying that JP3 takes place on a different part of Sorna than TLW (which also helps explain the noticeable California vs Hawaii shooting location differences between the films), however, this doesn't entirely track- especially since the lab area was intended (though is unstated) to be the same one from TLW as a vehicle with a broken window is meant to be the same one a raptor burrowed through to get at Malcolm in TLW), among other details.

So, as a retcon, there is the suggestion (and I believe this is hinted at in/supported by some of JW2's viral materials) that the Spino wasn't on Sorna in TLW, that it was an early, illegal, experiment by InGen modifying species / blending traits together and then dumped on Sorna after TLW to cover it up before JP3. This would explain why the Spino is so aggressive/kill-happy in JP3 despite real Spinos supposedly being fish eaters. And it explains why it wouldn't be on InGen's original lists.

That retcon further states that the experiments like the Spino were the predecessor to the techniques/experiments by Masrani to create the I-Rex.

 

The Indo had some setup- we just never saw it before the auction in the flesh. But the whole prologue was about getting the source material to make it and the whole focus on capturing Blue in the middle part of the movie was tied to the Indo's development.

Also, consider, that we never saw the T-Rex in the first film before the goat disappeared.

 

Yeah, I wish they hadn't used that dino for the "Ooh, ahhh" moment by the wrecked visitor center as a calback to JP1 though. It showing up at the docks at the end would have been a much more powerful symbol if the first dino we truly saw in JP1 was the last one we saw on Isla Nublar without having the reminder at the start of that sequence.

I still prefer TLW over all the films, even though JP1 is the only movie actually better than it, TLW is more rewatchable- and I actually like most of the characters better. There's a few misfires since the cast is so much larger and Ludlow is cartoony evil, but Tembo, Malcolm, Sarah & Nick are all much more interesting to watch than Ellie, Alan and the kids.

 

I just think it didn't need that establishing moment because, this is JP/JW sequel. The bronto reveal is arguably the most iconic thing in the whole franchise outside of the impact waves in the water. We don't need to be reminded of it.

Speaking of the island, kinda appropriate that Isla Nublar, which was bombed at the end of the first book, still gets all explodey by the end of its role in the films- just from below and not above.

 

That's the one plot point i really think needs to be addressed. They don't state that the Sorna dinos were brought to Nublar (though i imagine some were) but the scenario seems to require Sorna to be evacuated or its inhabitants otherwise dead (perhaps the lysine deficiency actually kicked in due to whatever food source running out that was providing them a supplement?). But, yeah, that's the only distracting part (especially for me, since my view of the franchise is so TLW-centric).

They do mention a sanctuary somewhere- but even if that was Sorna, its previous inhabitants would still need to be addressed (as the extinction aspect of Nublar blowing wouldn't be as pressing if they were still present on Sorna).