Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by OBI-GYN_Kenobi, Feb 9, 2003.
"Look, Geonosis is less then a parsec away."
Exactly as I stated to start this.....
It's mentioned 3 times I believe in the 5 films.
It's 12, not 15 the first time?
Well, it's been a while.
With 3 kids on vacation & a foot or 2 of snow coming, I can see a Star Wars marathon coming up soon.
BTW, I know 'spice' is some sort of drug, but what are the details?
Spice: A name given to a variety of drugs, in a particular the glitterstim spice mined underground on the planet Kessel. Spice is a highly taxed and controlled substance, although legal to use in most parts of the galaxy.
It is a popular commodity for smugglers because of its high profit margin. Spice has a number of legitimate uses in psychological therapy, criminal investigation, communication with alien races, and artistic inspiration and entertainment.
Mood altering glitterstim has a sharp, pleasant odor and can produce feelings of euphoria in those who use it. Other spices include ryll, carsunum, and andris.
(From the Star Wars Encyclopedia)
Dude, space is just funky around the Kessel run, which is why parsec, ordinarily used to measure distance, is used ta mesher time ther.
Spice is smuggled out of the prison on Kessel by "Dirty" Imperials who can get top dollar for taking it, but the way the get it out is through secret tunnels deep in Kessel. Glitterstim if exposed to light must be taken right then for it to work. If Glitterstim is exposed to light and not taken it is worthless, and that is why it must be mined in total darkness.
Here is a more detailed look at astronomical distance.
1 AU (astronomical unit): 92,955,933 miles
1 ly (light-year): 5,878,639,427,505 miles
1 ly : 63,241.142757 AU's
1 parsec: 206,264.555293 AU's
1 parsec: 3.261556 ly's
1 parsec: 19,173,514,177,205 miles
15 parsec: 287,602,712,658,076 miles
15 parsec: 48.923346 light-year's
Which means it will take you 48.923346 years to reach a destination 15 parsec's away traveling at the speed of light.
An AU is the distance between Earth and the Sun.
Our sun is about 28,000 lightyears from the core of the milkyway, which is about 100,000 lightyears across.
Black holes are supposed to alter the space around them. By flying close to one or several sapce is altered to the point that the distance from one point to the other is shorter. That is how Han made the run in less than 12 parsecs...
Yes, yes, to rumsmuggler you listen.
Firstly, it's 12 parsecs
Han wan't making an idle boast. The Kessel Run cuts near the Maw, a mass of black holes and neutron stars. Very dangerous place. When he made the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs, he cut dangerously close to the black holes, trimming the distance he travelled. Only the Falcon's sheer speed got him out of there alive. That's how Han Solo made the Kessel Run is under 12 parsecs.
geez, folks; I thought it was just a bunch of mini-secs.......
[color=663300]I wonder how they get around that whole "The faster you travel, the slower time passes" thing. [/color]
No, it's the faster you travel the less time you take. But, in this case, the superior speed of the Millennium Falcon allowed Han to skirt closer to the black holes, allowing him to take a shorter run through the Maw, and thus a faster time.
[color=663300] No, it's the faster you travel the less time you take.
I'm talking about the time dilation that takes place when taveling at high rates of speed. It's explained in Albert Einstein's Theory of Relativity. Basically, the faster you travel, time will slow down for you relative to the rest of the universe. It doesn't make any difference for us on earth because we can't travel fast enough here to really make a difference, but if you were going near to or faster than light speed, it would cause quite a difference.
For example: If a 20 year old person left his twin on earth and traveled to Proxima Centauri (4.3 lightyears away) traveling at 99.9999% the speed of light, it would take 8.8452 years for the vehicle to make it back to earth. BUT it would only seem to take 0.0108 years to the person INSIDE the vehicle. Meaning the passenger in the vehicle would only be 20.0108 years old and his twin on earth would be 28.8452 years old.
freaky, but true. [/color]
The Einstein theory doesn't apply in the GFFA, apparently.
[color=663300]Well, if space-time was "warped", it would help explain that. I don't know how Einstein's Theory really reaches into FASTER than light speed because according to him, it's impossible.
Of course, we're talkin about a movie. [/color]
Dang it I_F!
I thought I was going to get to post the real explanation for Hans boast!
EDIT: but I can add to it. the Kessel run is made in subspace only. you can't go into hyperspace because of the proximity of the Maw Cluster that you are trying to fly around. Which means Han was at sublight speeds. Thus, warped time is not necessary for the explaination.
[color=663300]Which means Han was at sublight speeds. Thus, warped time is not necessary for the explaination.
How does this cancel out "time dilation"? If you were going less than light speed, but obviously still pretty darn fast, then time dilation would effect you just as it would anyone else.[/color]
Hey... we are in a galaxy far, far away.
In reality, the time dilation has nothing to do with Star Wars. In this case, it's simply the shorter the route you take, the quicker you complete the run .
[color=663300]Yeh, that's why I said " Of course, we're talkin about a movie. "
If we had to follow the laws of physics, then we wouldn't have any sci-fi movies. [/color]
don;t they mention parsecs in Trek
i remember they talked about them when i watched Voyager
"How does this cancel out "time dilation"? "
it doesn't. the fact that Star Wars is science-fiction is the only thing cancels out time dilation.
How else could TIE fighter make noise?
"don;t they mention parsecs in Trek "
what is this, "Trek", you speak of?
[color=663300]Star Wars is science fiction???? [face_shocked] You can't be serious![/color]
Actually, it's not science fiction. It's a space opera.
Basically, the faster you travel, time will slow down for you relative to the rest of the universe.
Like in the movie, Planet of the Apes? Mark Wahlburg, ahhhh.