OK, so since the other thread is just two people with probable aspergers talking past one another and ruining the discussion entirely, I'm starting a new one. The only rule is that Slowpoke and Sinister keep the old thread to waste each other's time in. Justice League (2017) Dir: Ball Zack Snyder Writer: Chris Terrio I Really Hope You're The Common Sense Advocate: Geoff Johns Cast: Superman - Henry Cavill Batman - Ben Affleck Wonder Woman - Gal Gadot Cyborg - Ray Fisher Aquaman - Jason Momoa The Flash - Ezra Miller Plot: Steppenwolf, seen briefly at the end of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, is hunting for three motherboxes - computers used by the New Gods on Apokolips. They are located in Themyscira (home of the Amazons and Wonder Woman); Atlantis (home of...um... Atlanteans and Aquaman), and Cyborg's chest (home of Windows 10!). After the harsh critical reaction to the dark tone of Batman v Superman, Geoff Johns of DC Comics and Zack Snyder have indicated they've heard the criticism and there will be a lightness to this film. The convention footage posted above seems to speak to that point; and was well received. We tried to talk about this point but the high end of the spectrum was in overdrive having the same arguments about Man of Steel they've been having since 2013. Snyder tweeted an image of the "Tactical Bat Suit" from the film: The suit looks to be, well, like what people mean when they call something tactical. Straps. Extra Kevlar padding. And Owlman goggles from Watchmen. I was saying, or trying to over the shouts of "less taste!" and "more filling", that it looks a bit like the Arkham games and that honestly, I love Batfleck Batman. That warehouse fight (which I will link below in GLORIOUS 60FPS - if you play playstation or Xbox One you may be confused about framerates this high lolpcmasterrace) was so incredibly well done, that, along with that Batsuit, just destroyed any previous incarnation of the character on screen for me. It was THE Batman image. So, to kick discussion off and note, please, Slowpoke and Sinister, this isn't directed at you - 1) What are your thoughts on the trailer and new suit, and 2) What do you think the Justice League film needs to succeed critically? Or should it just aim for fan service and not widespread, Marvellian acclaim?