ST Kathleen Kennedy confirms new films will continue Skywalker saga

Much like Jakku's resemblance to Tatooine.

 

^ lol Fair point. Though I guess we haven't seen if there's more to Jakku that sets it apart.

 

To be fair a desert is a desert.

 

My question is why do you want Rey to be unrelated so badly? I mean you and that 0101030202 guy are the only ones that seem to want it to be that way.

How much sense would it have made watching a trailer for ANH if someone told you Luke was Vader's son. You would be been like "No way he is related" "How did he get on that desert planet" "Wouldn't Vader be looking for him", "if he ends up related its going to be totally unbelievable"

 

If you were going to make a new SW saga but wanted to distance it from George Lucas' vision - which is what has happened, his ideas/screenplay was not used - the easiest way would be to switch the main character from Luke's son/daughter to Han/Leia's son/daughter. The obvious route to go would be Luke's son fighting the new Sith/Empire threat. That would be consistent with the previous trilogies. Switching it to Han/Leia's daughter makes sense plus the idea of Rey's twin brother (Kylo) turning to the dark side - which appears to be the case - adds more drama and story complexity.

Essentially, Rey Solo is the Luke Skywalker character of the third trilogy. She may or may not become a full Jedi but it's possible Ep 9 will see her 'save' her brother from the dark side - which should mirror the ending of ep 6.

 

On what do you base the notion that anyone is trying to "distance" anything from Lucas?

Even IF they aren't using Lucas treatments/screenplays, doesn't mean they aren't using his ideas. Making the new hero the child of Han and Leia doesn't "distance" anything.

And Kylo Ren is Rey's twin brother? In what universe does Daisy Ridly look thirty or Adam Driver look like a twenty year old?

 

Couldn't they just both pass for 25? I kind of think they could.

 

Well as we all know, Abrams/Kadan are not using Lucas' ideas. Mr Lucas said that - it's public knowledge -

but if Abrams/Kasdan wanted the new saga to be about the SW family - and Kathleen Kennedy has confirmed this - then switching it from Luke's son to Han/Leia's daughter seems a sensible approach. I didn't meant 'distancing' in the pejorative sense. I meant they've retained the idea of a generational family saga but they're not going with Lucas' specific plot for ep 7.

As for Kylo and Rey as twins, would seem likely/possible. It's a sci-fi saga - do character have to age like they do here on Earth? Nah, of course not.

Another possibility is Kylo and Rey are Han's children but not Leia's. Han may have fathered them when he was no longer with Leia (assuming Leia and Han stayed together after Ep 6!). Han is a rogue, it's not unreasonable to think he may have strayed, had a few affairs. Perhaps that idea wouldn't suit Disney, it's not politically correct to have Han Solo as some irresponsible father having kids as a result of casual sex, but that idea could work and explain why Rey doesn't know her parents. Han had an affair with some woman, a casual encounter, she gave birth to Rey and Kylo, Han was never told about them, the children were adopted. Han never saw them.

If you remove Leia as the mother you can get around this question: "how can Rey be on Jakku without knowing she is a Solo?" Well, if Han had kids and they were not Leia's - I think it can work. I don't think Disney would go that route because it deconstructs Han Solo. It makes him look like a deadbeat father.

 

Crawling out from my self imposed lurkdom...

If Leia is not Kylo and Rey's mother then presumbly their mother was some other Force sensitive, but why split Han and Leia up just so Han can have kids with another Force sensitive woman when he already HAD one at the end of ROTJ?

Also Kylo seemingly has some kind of obsession with Vader, which packs a far greater punch if he is his grandson.

 

I don't believe so Driver could. And I don't see them ageing Ridley. Either way, there is no way they pass as the same age.

 

I agree it's unlikely but I'm not so convinced as you that there's no way. Hollywood is full of late twenties playing teens in high school with early forties playing their parents and I think driver can look pretty youthful.

That said I think the whole idea of them being twins is just people clinging onto the EU a little too much.

They could easily be siblings though....


.... or cousins....

.....or ex-lover's roommates....

... or just two people in the same galaxy.

 

Exactly. We've already established it's still a Skywalker saga. Did I miss the part where it was revealed that Han was Luke's brother?

Unbelievable.

They are probably just siblings. But I can also see them passing for twins. He doesn't look that old.

 

doesn't mean the bad guy has to be a Skywalker. See Palpatine, Dooku, Maul, Grevious and Tarkin.

So maybe while Leia was busy in training with Luke at the Academy Mara and Han got bored and got it on. Mara then pretended Kylo was Luke's kid but when the kid was already taller than him at age 11 Luke figured it out and got all cross and banished Kylo who, spurned by his father figure fell into the ever welcoming arms of the Dark Side.

Case closed I think!

 

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Siblings? I'm not saying they couldn't be - I'm not so nitpicky as to require that only actual siblings or lookalikes portray on screen siblings , but that isn't the same thing as age.

Driver supposedly being the same age as Ridley would have me thinking of the cast of Grease or Kevin Bacon in Footloose.

 

Again. Adam Driver can easily pass for younger.

 

well like I said Hollywood has previous on this!

I think she's his little sister though. Was at the academy when very but either rescued or spared when big bro either brought in or was taken by the enemy.

Sure she could be Luke's kid but that would involve a load of backstory to fill in which they don't really need to do if they just make her a young solo. She'd still be a skywalker in blood and direct descendant of Anakin/Vader. Plus more emotional turmoil if she ultimately kills her brother. I mean I barely know some of my cousins!

 

If Luke shacked up with another Jedi and the result was Rey would she not be more powerful than a Han / Leia child providing she inherited her parents Midichlorians?

 

Why do so many people in here automatically assume that if Rey and Kylo are siblings(I firmly believe they are) that they absolutely, positively must be twins? Brothers and sisters can be different ages, you know... I mean, I know it's a difficult concept to grasp, but I hear it does sometimes happen.

I think it's pretty obvious that if Kylo is Rey's brother, he's several years her senior.

 

The rumor that has started to play [and kind of like it] says that Kylo Ren might be a child of Han but his mother is not Leia. I think it's fine if Kira Rey, being Leia's or Luke's daughter [being right in the Skywalker lineage] has to confront and eventually redeem his half-brother or "half-cousin"...

 

Where did you hear that rumour? First I've heard of it.

 

It's ridiculous. How do you remove Leia and thus the Skywalker bloodline? Isn't Kylo supposed to think he's Vader reborn or something? Makes a lot more sense if he's his Grandfather.

P.S. I'm loving all these "Shacked up" comments about a Disney movie. OK!

 

I like the idea of Rey being Luke's daughter and Kylo being Leia's son.

With Han possibly dead by the end of TFA - the conflict between Luke and Leia will be very interesting. Something which we have never seen before between the two. And I hope this plays out in 8 and 9.

 

I'd at least prefer they not be twins. There's enough trilogy rhyming as it is. Just make him the older sibling.

 

Same here. Sounds to me like yet another BS fantasy cooked up by people who can't stand the idea of Han and Leia's daughter being the protagonist or their son the antagonist... You know, the same people who are threatening to boycott the film if Rey is a Solo.