ST Kelly Marie Tran (Rose Tico) in Episode IX

I don't think that's as big an issue as some would make it out to be this time. The section of the film she is most associated with, isn't considered compelling by many people complaining about her (From my experience). As much as I like TLJ and it's characters, Canto Bight has proven a miss step with audiences, and I think it's all down to execution. The basic concept has merit, but how it was done just did not resonate with people by and large. Finn, at least, has some good will and fondness from audience members from TFA, and his taking down Phasma in TLJ helps a bit as well (Though again not everyone feels this way). Rose....was literally created so Finn would have someone to bounce off of when RJ decided that the adventures of Finn and Poe would just be a buddy cop adventure that no one would be interested in.

 

The Canto Bight sequence has problems and Rose has one crappy line at the end of the movie but people are comparing her to Jar Jar, which is just over the top.

 

People compared Finn to Jar Jar....soo....nothing new here. There's always going to be fans that use the Jar Jar Fallacy on a character they do not like.

 

Q.E.D.

 

I agree. The vast majority of the critism stems from the Canto Bight storyline and not Kelly or John’s performance, gender or ethnicity. My profound hope is a strong story worthy of their talents in IX.

 

I am not sure how Rose and Jar Jar have much in common...

 

I liked Jar Jar. I can't say the same for Rose. Comparing her to JarJar is an insult to the Bombad General and hero of the Battle of Nabbo. Jar Jar was creative, memorable, and a technical marvel of the time. He was an actual character that played an important role.
If we are going to compare Rose to anyone from The Phantom Menace, she's Ric Ollie.

 

oh the great despair that struck me as i realized i was the only person on earth that actually enjoyed Canto Bight a lot and thought the broom boy kid was a great pay off to Finn's and Rose's misguided but much needed adventures :-( :-X :'( :-D :-D

 

Understanding why the Canto Bight sequence makes sense and understanding Rose's big impact on the story isn't hard to figure out.

 

If it's any consolation, my sister-in-law went to see TLJ, despite never really being a big SW fan, so I didn't know what her reaction would be. Turns out, she absolutely loved it. I asked her what, in particular, she enjoyed so much. She replied, "Those giant horse things were great! I loved that whole chase and the entire casino planet!" So, you're not alone in enjoying Canto Bight.

 

What are you guys expectations of her for IX?

Does she stay a Finn supporting character?

Does she get her own subplot like Poe in TLJ?

Do they just give her a cameo like Maz Kanata in TFA?

 

Since JJ forgot to mention her when discussing characters in IX, I'm not expecting much at all.

 

JJ will have to streamline the storytelling of IX to avoid the (heavily edited) bloat of VIII. I strongly doubt JJ will attempt RJ's triple parallel narrative so she'll get scenes with Rey, Finn, Poe - the question will be, how much and how substantive? A time jump will help Rose because a.) she won't be in a coma; b.) JJ can grow her into the character the story needs.

 

I expect her to get more or less Maz-ed.

 

This is a good question and frankly i have no idea....since things never turn out the way we expect we cant be sure she's gonna be Lando'd into ep9. IMO that would be strange if she gets the Maz treatment. But everything is possible so....

 

Maybe Lando is in IX and Rose gives him a kiss.

 

Ol' smoothie.

 

@Darth Smurf @Ubraniff Zalkaz
*Rose smashing into Finn's speeder* Sorry am I...interrupting something???
*Rose after being betrayed by DJ* This deals getting worse all the time!

 

I think she'll continue to be Finn's sidekick, she'll be a little bit of comic relief at times. I think there is an opportunity to include her along with Finn in a combat mission like the Rebel Strike Team in ROTJ. If JJ can come up with a commando raid on a strategic FO installation then I can see both KMT and John Boyega will have some material they can get their teeth into and give the audience a thrilling subplot.

 

There's a lot of potential for Rose in 9. They could easily use her as a "disposable" character to kill off. Or they could go the opposite route, and really build her up. She's a character whose entire purpose is that she's just a random person who ended up meaning something to the overall picture. There's a lot to explore there. KMT is a great actress who didn't have the best things to do. It'd be a waste to not change people's opinions. Honestly, having Rose be great in 9 might save her future career options. Sadly, I can see a future Jake Lloyd type scenario in KMT's future with the way the SW fan base acts.

 

Reduce her to the Connix role and go back to a more cohesive narrative.

 

A very basic question ..... has she signed on for IX?

 

I think the main issue I have with her is that she was the one who stopped Finn in his tracks and set him up for this alternate story.

I do feel like Finn should have been left to go after Rey, get to the island, possibly miss her as she leaves to go confront Kylo, meets Luke, they have argument why Luke didn't stop her, then goes to find Rey on the same star destroyer that he wound up with Rose.

Poe going along the ride with Rose would have been a better Canto journey in my opinion. Poe messed up and cost the resistance lives. Rose should have a grudge on Poe because he is pretty much the reason her sister is gone right? Instead that doesn't happen at all. There should be tension going on there and they should be able to settle it and grow as characters through the Canto journey. Poe needs to make up for what he's done and wants to prove to the resistance that he can make a positive difference and what not. Instead he's on the ship doing nothing...

Poe and Rose could have turned into a thing and would have been much more believable in that sense. Kinda like how Han and Leia hated each other but eventually fell for each other. I get that Finn has to make it up to Rose that he is a hero after showing her that he was trying to bail, but either way, Finn should have been able to do what he had to do. If they let Rey go, why not Finn? I get Leia was unconscious by then so she didn't have a say, but Finn should be in a triangle with Rey and Kylo, and I'm not even talking just romantically. Finn who is worried about Rey, gets mad at her for going after Kylo and almost falling for him and their friendship gets strained.

I know I'm getting off topic here but I guess all I am trying to say is that I think there would be less hate on Rose if Finn was able to do his own thing. He was essentially the second biggest character in TFA, and there was so much buildup where to go next with those characters. Rose took that away. Had it been Poe with her, it would have been a much better reception for her. I could be wrong, but that's just my opinion. It also would have given Poe a love interest instead of the background character Connix.

 

Pretty sure...I think? Probably yeah. People were just weirded out that JJ didn't mention he when he brought up the main characters having interesting story arcs in IX (Rey Poe Finn and Kylo).

 

Um...how would Finn get to Ahch-TO? He's not a pilot.

All he would have is a small escape pod.

One of the reasons Rose was created, is because Finn needed someone to travel with him place to place. Without Poe or Rose or Rey, he doesn't have that.