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Like Rocky in Rocky III. The Alexandrians' are having a hard time adjusting from a lavish lifestyle into a violent world. Same can be said for Ricks group except, reversed.

Also glad to see Abraham step up. I like his character & didn't want to see the writers do to him what they did to Tyrese. Take an interesting character & waste his potential.

 

Alexandria has had to scavenge and face zombies for as long as Rick's group has. And the time Rick's group spent at the farm and the prison was essentially no different from life at Alexandria, save for the running water and electricity. Everyone alive in this world who has to leave a protected area to search for supplies should have essentially the same set of survival skills at this point, otherwise they would not have survived.

 

Maybe not if the bravest among them keeped getting left behind to die by the cowardly.

Did they ever establish how long Alexandria's been set up? I can't remember.

 

Amazing episode yesterday:

-Didn't see Noah's death coming - very sad.

-Glad to see Eugene finally man up - liked how he distracted the walkers by playing the music in the van.

-The scene when Aidan was being eaten by the zombie's was truly grotesque; though the guy started out as a jerk, by this episode you could tell he had a lot more respect for Glenn & the others. Quite harrowing scene. Re: this sequence, I can see why Glenn tried to help Aiden, but I don't see that he was going to live through his serious injuries - even if the zombie's hadn't gotten him....Aiden looked fatally injured.

-Interesting to see how Carol somewhat bond with that kid re: the cookies; didn't see that coming.

Like others, I'm guessing the following will happen in the next two episodes:

- Deanna & her husband will be skeptical that Glenn & Eugene's group didn't take Aiden out, re: the confrontation in an earlier episode. I'm also thinking that Aiden's "buddy" Nicolas (the guy who left him behind) will lie & say Glenn did something to Aiden, since they justifiably had to beat him up re: him trying to leave them at the compound. I'm also thinking Deanna may believe this guy more than Glenn/Eugene, since Rick's group are still considered outsiders.

- Rick will have a confrontation with Pete, and I think I know how it's going to end up. Pete is obviously disturbed, and is a powder-keg waiting to happen. I'm guessing he didn't see Rick kiss (or try to kiss) his wife at the party, or he would've reacted violently towards Rick - maybe. Also, it's obvious Carol is more sensitive to Pete's possible/alleged abuse, due to her own personal, past experience.

 

I had a similar issue with last night's episode. But I got the impression that their code is to run--to let the group survive by sacrificing the individual(s) when necessary. It's consistent with everything we've seen from that community to date, including the quip "I guess the Communists won after all" (which made me laugh). One can argue about the wisdom of that code, but it is absolutely a code, nonetheless.

But what bothers me about the whole thing is that they seem to lack any basic skills for handling roamers/walkers. My guess is that we're meant to accept that only a very few normally venture out and that the vision of expansion is what has driven this recent contact with roamers.

Edit: On Pete, I rather think Pete saw the attempted kiss and took it out on his wife. If he is an abuser and his pathology is consistent with other abusers, he likely won't confront a man (Rick) unless he absolutely has to.

 

My impression is that Alexandria has had their doors closed for a long time and they recently started to recruit when they starting losing people on supply runs and realized that they were not equipped for the outside world. Just because you may have the same amount of experience doesn't mean you have the same amount of success. Because of Rick's leadership ability's Deanna can see that he must be an effective leader if he was able to keep his large group alive so long without the comforts of and lack of threats to Alexandria.

 

It seems quite believable to me that the vast majority of Alexandrians would be pretty clueless when coming up against Walkers.The show's established that they'd cleared an area of 53 miles around Alexandria, but I get the impression that's a very select group of people like Aidan, Nicholas, Eric and Aaron. The regular schmucks like Pete, Deanna, her husband and construction dude probably haven't seen much of the outside world since the ZomPoc happened. Eric and Aaron (well, Aaron mainly) seem quite capable and suitably traumatised by being beyond the walls. Then you've got Aidan and Nicholas who've survived by leaving people behind whilst they escape.

 

I know. Some of Rick's group survived solely by the fact that they were... in Rick's group. Imagine the most capable slowly being decimated & the clueless having to step up. I mean... that is the whole they were recruited, is it not.

 

Both death's in this ep were somewhat graphic especially the last. It's as if they've kicked the budget up a little.


Solid episode though

 

I also think that if their basic rule when confronted by walkers is to flee, then it makes sense that Alexandrians (even the ones that venture out) have basically no idea how to effectively handle the undead. Sure, they have guns, but other than that, they're pretty much useless.

 

The people of Alexandria has definitely been living in a bubble. Their response to flee is as natural as the response to fight. They're the case that fits "the meek shall inherit the earth." However, they invited Darwin's theory into their walls and the meek will have to give way to the fittest. Which Gabriel views as the false light that will destroy the paradise that is Alexandria. It's sad and somewhat ironic that the priest would be the Judas to Rick's crew and have them cast out of the Garden of Eden so to speak. Also, that comes from a man that would allow his sheep to perish outside his church walls.

I was bummed about Noah's death, especially how it happened; from a coward's actions and the rules Alexandria.

 

I liked how they bumped off two characters on a random "supply run" because those had a tendency to start to become sorta "oh, hey, zombies, whatever" *stab* but everyone once in awhile you should establish that the zombies are a threat, especially if you're with a group that has no idea how to handle them. Team Grimes isn't inept but other people screwing up can cost them their lives.

I hope Eugine isn't a stone-cold zombie killer from this point out. Because I kind of like that he's a wimp. Team Grimes can carry one wimp, they can't carry an entire town of 'em.

 

Everybody Ate Chris.

 

Now that Noah is dead, maybe Morgan will finally show up. #balance

 

Still wishing that Michone and Carl had just left Gabriel to get eaten by the Walkers outside the church. He's like the new Andrea in that they both think they're so righteous but, really, they're just unbearably annoying.

 

Thanks, Ale.

 

So Rick .. he's lost it. I can't tell if his craziness it due to PTSD, or letting go of being in charge, or not being able to accept he can't kill zombies every day and be starving all the time.

His rant at the end of the show last night was hard to watch.

 

Yeah he looked extra crazy with blood on his face, but was what he said all that unreasonable?

It reminded me of Jack Lemmon's death scene in The China Syndrome. The message is important and the content is on target, but a coherent delivery is hard when the adrenaline is pumping, and people may misinterpret your intent when you're waving a gun around.

 

Very good point.

Carol and Rick are being too hard headed about it though. These people seem WILLING to learn how to survive, that's why they brought the group into the town in the first place. Sure they're not prepared to make the really hard decisions, but Carol and Rick are too quick to just write them off completely instead of trying to teach and explain to them how things work now (although they have mentioned it several times).

But ya he came off as a raving lunatic and no one was willing to back him up.

 

The Alexandrians seem too set in their ways and unless a horde/some truly bad people come to visit then that doesn't look like changing. Meanwhile you've got people like Pete, Nicholas and Aidan either leaving people to die or beating up vulnerable members of the town. Deanna is living in a fantasy land if she thinks mere exile is an appropriate punishment in this world.

 

I don't know if it's a fantasy land, but she hasn't experienced the worst of the new world, and has never been attacked by other groups or had someone who you let live come back and cause havoc. She still believes that the rules of the old world apply, and wants to bring the society of the old world back. So she's just playing her cards according to her own experiences, not knowing she's been unbelievably fortunate.

 

What you described is a fantasy land--it is not how the world actually is.

 

True, and not true. To her that makes no sense, because she hasn't experienced it. And because she's been fortunate enough to not experience it, it's not a fantasyland, it's her reality.